CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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unless some secret emails leak some day proving this was an industry takedown of a 'superior product', one would have to agree that charting a conciliatory path through the legitimate concerns might have got them everything they wanted as fans.
ALIEN: Oh. Star Trek IP theft restricted. Take permits many. Money, more.
AP: There aren't going to be any damn permits! How can you get a permit to do a damn illegal thing? Look, price you name, money fans got.
ALIEN: Movie YOU name, money I name. Otherwise, bargain, no.
AP: All right, dammit. It's Axanar. The name of the movie we're making is AXANAR.
ALIEN: AXANAR?!
AP: Yes, Axanar! How can you be deaf with ears like that?
ALIEN: Axanar allowed is not. ...Is movie forbidden!
Me: Wouldn't now be the perfect time to do a real fan film version of Axanar that doesn't cross lines? :-)
CBS: "Mr. Peters? I'm sorry but your voice is carrying. I don't think you want to be discussing this subject in public."
AP: "I'll discuss what I like! Who the hell are you?!"
CBS: "CBS Legal."
AP tries the neck pinch. It doesn't work.
CBS: "This project is going to get a nice long rest, Mr. Peters."
Huh. Banned from yet another forum. From post #127:
"I can only hope history does not repeat itself."
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=157673
"I can only hope history does not repeat itself."
http://www.therpf.com/showthread.php?t=157673
And that's all they can ever be, jespah?
Hmm. I see that questions arose there as to where the money had gone, and He was not prepared to handle that.
He hasn't improved a bit.
I'm a member of the RPF. He was banned because of the same bullying tactics and disregard for forum rules that he did here.
Like this on, Urbandefault found:
Axanar Fan Group on FB?
Or if they ask a simple question, he gets defensive. He's a shinning example of the Village motto from THE PRISONER:
"Questions are a burden to others. Answers a prison for oneself."
When you control the message, it's easier not to get banned. And far more easier to ban others.
You know the big problem with that attitude? It turns off potential customers. Some people want more information before they feel comfortable doing business with someone. If you're unwilling to address their concerns then they'll go elsewhere. If there's a lurker who is thinking about doing business with you--but doesn't have any active questions--the attitude suggests there's something the company is trying to hide.
"Trust me" is a horrible thing to ask of customers/potential customers. "Test me" is what you want. If your business is well-built then any test a customer comes up with is one you can handle. (Some customers, of course, require firing because they're the equivalent of real-life trolls. Fortunately, they are few enough that they don't undermine the general principle behind "test me.")
The Garth episode war airing on German SyFy earlier. I hadn't seen it in ages so after watching it again, I now have two theories regarding Peters:
1) It is just one big piece of performance art by him, living his "role".
2) To compensate for his total lack of acting abilities he has inserted himself so deep into the role of Garth of Izar, that he has "turned into" Garth of Izar.
It's just uncanny how much his persona resembles the one of "his" role: delusional, believes himself the ruler of the Galaxy (or of Star Trek in Peters case), has followers that don't question him, is willing to sacrifice people for his gain etc.
1) It is just one big piece of performance art by him, living his "role".
2) To compensate for his total lack of acting abilities he has inserted himself so deep into the role of Garth of Izar, that he has "turned into" Garth of Izar.
It's just uncanny how much his persona resembles the one of "his" role: delusional, believes himself the ruler of the Galaxy (or of Star Trek in Peters case), has followers that don't question him, is willing to sacrifice people for his gain etc.
I posted this over on the CBS page but since that was shuttered I thought I would post it here. Apologies if some or all of this has already been covered.
It seems Axanar has several routes for raising money outside of Kickstarter and Indiegogo:
1. Selling merch like patches, t-shirts, blurays, etc at cons
2. Selling merch in the “Donor Store”
3. Soliciting direct donations at cons
4. Soliciting additional donations inside Ares Digital
5. Soliciting additional donations on the Axanar website aka “Retroactive Donations” wherein someone could donate an unlimited amount of money
http://www.axanarproductions.com/…/retroactive-donor-pack…/…
Here’s the problem - none of this additional money is listed on the 2015 Annual Report. Only Kickstarter, Indiegogo and some Backerkit funds are listed. How much was raised via outside routes during the time period covered by the Annual Report? How much has been raised from August 1st, 2015 to present? What are/were the funds used for?
It seems Axanar has several routes for raising money outside of Kickstarter and Indiegogo:
1. Selling merch like patches, t-shirts, blurays, etc at cons
2. Selling merch in the “Donor Store”
3. Soliciting direct donations at cons
4. Soliciting additional donations inside Ares Digital
5. Soliciting additional donations on the Axanar website aka “Retroactive Donations” wherein someone could donate an unlimited amount of money
http://www.axanarproductions.com/…/retroactive-donor-pack…/…
Here’s the problem - none of this additional money is listed on the 2015 Annual Report. Only Kickstarter, Indiegogo and some Backerkit funds are listed. How much was raised via outside routes during the time period covered by the Annual Report? How much has been raised from August 1st, 2015 to present? What are/were the funds used for?
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