CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[Campe]

There are five living Hugo Award-winning writers in Star Trek: Harlan Ellison (The City on the Edge of Forever - 1968), Morgan Gendel, Peter Allan Fields (The Inner Light - 1993), Ronald D. Moore, and Brannon Braga (All Good Things... - 1995).

No one has ever won a Nebula Award for Star Trek.

But he did not suggest Nebula and Hugo award winners for Star Trek. He just said "I'd like them to give one episode to each of the Hugo / Nebula award winning writers alive." That would certainly change things if he meant only Star Trek writers, sure.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Colonizing Mars for dramatic purposes ain't cheap.

It's getting so expensive to rescue Matt Damon in movies... In MY day...

 

[Squiggy]

It's getting so expensive to rescue Matt Damon in movies... In MY day...

Yes yes, but in YOUR day you ended up getting Tom Hanks killed.

 

[urbandefault]

I haven't seen The Martian or Interstellar yet, but to me Gravity was edge-of-the-seat suspense most of the way through. I never thought "Wow, this is so cerebral!" or "Look at the science!" I doubt many movie-goers had those thoughts either.

All it has to be is entertaining.

Man, I wish there was news on the lawsuit.

 

[Indysolo]

Winston & Strawn, our law firm, is representing us pro-bono. We will probably have an Axanar Legal Defense Fund Kickstarter in the near future.

Found here.

Neil

 

[Squiggy]

What I like about Gravity is how it smacks you in the face and gets to it about 3 minutes into the movie.

"Fuck you, exposition."

 

[BillJ]

I haven't seen The Martian or Interstellar yet, but to me Gravity was edge-of-the-seat suspense most of the way through. I never thought "Wow, this is so cerebral!" or "Look at the science!" I doubt many movie-goers had those thoughts either.

All it has to be is entertaining.

Man, I wish there was news on the lawsuit.

http://www.spaceanswers.com/space-e...y-got-wrong-and-some-things-it-got-right-too/

 

[BillJ]

What I like about Gravity is how it smacks you in the face and gets to it about 3 minutes into the movie.

"Fuck you, exposition."

I like movies that do exposition on the fly. I'd rather have it that way than slow explanation with everyone standing around.

 

[Franklin]

I haven't seen The Martian or Interstellar yet, but to me Gravity was edge-of-the-seat suspense most of the way through. I never thought "Wow, this is so cerebral!" or "Look at the science!" I doubt many movie-goers had those thoughts either.

All it has to be is entertaining.

Man, I wish there was news on the lawsuit.

Science? Meh. No more "real scince" than in "Star Trek". Check out Neil DeGrasse Tyson's take on the science of "Gravity". Even movies set in "real space" walk all over the laws of physics and the empirical world. Bear in mind, he does say he still enjoyed the movie.

http://www.wired.com/2013/10/neil-degrasse-tyson-gravity/

 

[JD]

But he did not suggest Nebula and Hugo award winners for Star Trek. He just said "I'd like them to give one episode to each of the Hugo / Nebula award winning writers alive." That would certainly change things if he meant only Star Trek writers, sure.

I just don't really see giving an episode to every Hugo or Nebula winner. I'm pretty sure they're going to want to stick to mostly people with TV and movie writing experience and a lot of the Hugo and Nebula probably don't have that. There are also a lot of categories that are for amateurs, like fanzine, fan artist, and fan personality, and categories for artists. So would you be expect them to let amateurs or artists with no writing experience write episodes?
If they do a serialized story, then they're probably going to need to set up a fairly consistent writers room, and that's going to be hard if they are constantly bringing in new writers.

 

[Relayer1]

Interstellar, The Martian and Gravity prove also that audiences will embrace thoughtful science fiction drama if it is of high quality.

Whilst those are qualities I'm all in favour of, that's two rotten movies and one I haven't seen (The Martian).

 

[Franklin]

Found here.

Neil

They are being represented pro bono, right now. Is he thinking of a legal defense fund for future lawsuits? Odd thing to say, in my opinion.

 

[muCephi]

We will probably have an Axanar Legal Defense Fund Kickstarter in the near future.

they seriously think Kickstarter would let themselves get in even deeper with this?

 

[muCephi]

I haven't seen The Martian or Interstellar yet, but to me Gravity was edge-of-the-seat suspense most of the way through. I never thought "Wow, this is so cerebral!" or "Look at the science!" I doubt many movie-goers had those thoughts either.

All it has to be is entertaining.

Man, I wish there was news on the lawsuit.

Gravity had a bad case of the "space is like a WWI dogfight" syndrome. Pretty much took me out of it.

 

[Mudd]

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  Herb Flynn says:
  January 28, 2016 at 11:04 am
  er, where are the funds to pay for the lawsuit coming from and will there be a legal defense fund set up for donation from your loyal fans?
  
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    Alec Peters says:
    January 28, 2016 at 12:51 pm
    Winston & Strawn, our law firm, is representing us pro-bono. We will probably have an Axanar Legal Defense Fund Kickstarter in the near future.
    
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      Fred Trafton says:
      January 28, 2016 at 2:53 pm
      I’ve been hoping that would happen. I’ll certainly donate!

So, are Flynn and Trafton convenient sockpuppets or can Garth really depend upon an army of idiots with credit cards?

"Yes, please, sir! My children don't need milk or an education, the opportunity to sacrifice a normal healthy life on the altar of your scam is reward enough!"

 

[BillJ]

I've seen both Interstellar and The Martian, like them both fairly well and I like hard sci-fi. I liked both of the Abrams' Trek films better.

 

[BillJ]

So, are Flynn and Trafton convenient sockpuppets or can Garth really depend upon an army of idiots with credit cards?

Flynn may have the sarcasm meter up on 11 and Lord Garth didn't pick up on it.

 

[muCephi]

Or, one episode in each season. But, budgetary constraints are always a concern, and award winning writers cut deeply in to that. Not saying they should skimp on the writers, but that it must be weighed against other needs.

I mean "City on the Edge of Forever" is a very famous example. Ellison wrote a screenplay but it didn't work for a number of reasons. The result was a rather nasty fighting among the parties involved. Not every Hugo or Nebula winner is the right writer for the show you are producing. That's fine, but I wouldn't want to bank the success of the series on a writer who only got hired because of their awards.

Writing prose and writing a screenplay are very different things.

not saying it would be EASY to harness their talents, only that diversity of approach coupled with their visionary abilities would be interesting especially compared to tektek of the week.

 

[Professor Zoom]

Yes yes, but in YOUR day you ended up getting Tom Hanks killed.

Admit it. It was great seeing him die.

not saying it would be EASY to harness their talents, only that diversity of approach coupled with their visionary abilities would be interesting especially compared to tektek of the week.

TV production is hard enough. Why would you want to make it harder? Why would you hire someone with no TV writing experience, that you would have to rewrite anyway? Use them as resources for story ideas, maybe, but, you can't just let them go an write something and not touch it. That would be irresponsible with the rather large budget you are in charge of.

 

[Albinator]

Whilst those are qualities I'm all in favour of, that's two rotten movies and one I haven't seen (The Martian).

Troll level achieved.