CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[SuperSpaceMan]

I hate to break it to you....

How come this fundraiser never happened? It never materialized. I wonder why.....
With that said, I know Peters and Company talked about different distribution options for Axanar when it was released, with non donors only having access to the four separate acts, and not the whole feature, edited together.

 

[Albinator]

if there's something juicy enough that happens in the courtroom, do not be surprised to see it covered in Variety or the Hollywood Reporter.

It's already been covered by both. I stand by my take on this. First off, Trek's 50th isn't exactly getting huge widespread media attention, and "something juicy" to get mass audience attention would have to involve sex, drugs or murder.

Copyright infringement cases to the average viewer are a) boring b) confusing and c) unlikely to elicit any real emotion because of A and B.

 

[muCephi]

It's already been covered by both. I stand by my take on this. First off, Trek's 50th isn't exactly getting huge widespread media attention, and "something juicy" to get mass audience attention would have to involve sex, drugs or murder.

Copyright infringement cases to the average viewer are a) boring b) confusing and c) unlikely to elicit any real emotion because of A and B.

I think creating as much of (a) and (b) as possible around this case will be a high priority for the defense. But if they manage to open up a loophole in copyright law that lets for profit-companies host 'fair use' fan projects while making a profit around that hosting, there will be a landrush of companies selling 'fan' knockoffs everywhere they can, for ad revenues, licensing opportunities, etc. Landrushes definitely attract interest, the same way hot stock tips do.

 

[jamestyler]

I think creating as much of (a) and (b) as possible around this case will be a high priority for the defense. But if they manage to open up a loophole in copyright law that lets for profit-companies host 'fair use' fan projects while making a profit around that hosting, there will be a landrush of companies selling 'fan' knockoffs everywhere they can, for ad revenues, licensing opportunities, etc. Landrushes definitely attract interest, the same way hot stock tips do.

I've got a HUGE range of Axanar merchandise ready - on the very slim chance they win, I'll assume they'd have no problem with me using their product.

 

[Albinator]

I think creating as much of (a) and (b) as possible around this case will be a high priority for the defense. But if they manage to open up a loophole in copyright law that lets for profit-companies host 'fair use' fan projects while making a profit around that hosting, there will be a landrush of companies selling 'fan' knockoffs everywhere they can, for ad revenues, licensing opportunities, etc. Landrushes definitely attract interest, the same way hot stock tips do.

But we're talking mass audience awareness. Even if this turns out to be a watershed moment in copyright law, it's not likely to become hot-button issue among the casual, average fan. I mean, how big of a news story was the 1992 Copyright Renewal Act? Or the 1998 Safe Harbor Law? Sure, they got some major outlets covering it, and it was in the news.. but did anyone on the street really care?

There have been dozens of critically important cases involving copyright that nobody has ever heard of outside of a law school.

Again, copyright law is boring and confusing, the average joe just doesn't have interest. Unless there's something truly scandalous (like Watergate-level intrigue, a murder, an illicit sexual affair or some drug ring activity run out of Ares Studio), expect the masses to not pay much attention.

I also doubt this will even be that watershed moment anyway, it's more likely there will be a quiet settlement and it will end up in the internet version of the back pages of the newspaper, buried among a hundred other 1-line stories.

But scratch all I just said: if this changes crowdfunding-- if it puts a spotlight on campaigns taking money and not delivering product-- I could see it becoming a news story people care about. But NOT because of the actual copyright infringement case.

 

[Albinator]

I've got a HUGE range of Axanar merchandise ready - on the very slim chance they win, I'll assume they'd have no problem with me using their product.

In all seriousness, what if one of the other productions out there created an Axanar/Garth of Izar fan-film? How do you think he'd react?

 

[jamestyler]

In all seriousness, what if one of the other productions out there created an Axanar/Garth of Izar fan-film? How do you think he'd react?

I imagine like that

 

[Tom Hendricks]

I've actually started filming Star Trek: Axanar in my basement with Sock Puppets and Kittens against cardboard and paper mache sets, I put it all together this afternoon. So now I will be the "Official" Axanar, with me telling the story first. Probably will be a few weeks in post, takes a while to film MicroMachines hanging on fishing wire in front of black felt and silver pixie dust.

 

[Danlav05]

oh FuQsake!!

 

[urbandefault]

oh FuQsake!!

That's just sad. :/

 

[muCephi]

But we're talking mass audience awareness. Even if this turns out to be a watershed moment in copyright law, it's not likely to become hot-button issue among the casual, average fan. I mean, how big of a news story was the 1992 Copyright Renewal Act? Or the 1998 Safe Harbor Law? Sure, they got some major outlets covering it, and it was in the news.. but did anyone on the street really care?

There have been dozens of critically important cases involving copyright that nobody has ever heard of outside of a law school.

Again, copyright law is boring and confusing, the average joe just doesn't have interest. Unless there's something truly scandalous (like Watergate-level intrigue, a murder, an illicit sexual affair or some drug ring activity run out of Ares Studio), expect the masses to not pay much attention.

I also doubt this will even be that watershed moment anyway, it's more likely there will be a quiet settlement and it will end up in the internet version of the back pages of the newspaper, buried among a hundred other 1-line stories.

But scratch all I just said: if this changes crowdfunding-- if it puts a spotlight on campaigns taking money and not delivering product-- I could see it becoming a news story people care about. But NOT because of the actual copyright infringement case.

Agree re average fan wrt/ copyright. I was thinking more of the trade presses, from which it could still propagate outward through various syndicators. Yes, the crowdfunding response does seem to be a big risk.. I wouldn't want to be telling 10k 'authentic' trek fans it was never likely to be approved by CBS, but thanks for your money towards my future business...

I've actually started filming Star Trek: Axanar in my basement with Sock Puppets and Kittens against cardboard and paper mache sets, I put it all together this afternoon. So now I will be the "Official" Axanar, with me telling the story first. Probably will be a few weeks in post, takes a while to film MicroMachines hanging on fishing wire in front of black felt and silver pixie dust.

pew pew IS awful close to mew mew

 

[BillJ]

https://www.gofundme.com/dhkmzn9q

oh FuQsake!!

What exactly are they going to accomplish with $5K? Buy Worf lunch in Beverly Hills?

 

[Danlav05]

That's just sad. :/

Does anyone remember the Star Trek Titan campaign? 'Raise 1 million dollars and we'll bring Riker & Troi back!'

They never said who they were and what they were doing. Nuts

 

[dahj]

'Raise 1 million dollars and we'll bring Riker & Troi back!'

That sounds more like a ransom note

 

[muCephi]

In all seriousness, what if one of the other productions out there created an Axanar/Garth of Izar fan-film? How do you think he'd react?

have no idea what he would say and wouldn't speak for him. But would be of interest to hear some variant of this: "they are ruining it for everyone by taking the story out of the hands of those best equipped to portray it".

 

[SFC3]

I've actually started filming Star Trek: Axanar in my basement with Sock Puppets and Kittens against cardboard and paper mache sets, I put it all together this afternoon. So now I will be the "Official" Axanar, with me telling the story first. Probably will be a few weeks in post, takes a while to film MicroMachines hanging on fishing wire in front of black felt and silver pixie dust.

Jokes on you. Here's the official Axanar film. I leaked it by hacking into Axanar webservers with my high tech GUI interface, coded in Virtual Basic.

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[Mudd]

Does anyone remember the Star Trek Titan campaign? 'Raise 1 million dollars and we'll bring Riker & Troi back!'

They never said who they were and what they were doing. Nuts

I remember the goddamned "Captain Sulu and the Excelsior" campaign fifteen years ago. What a crock.

 

[Danlav05]

I remember the goddamned "Captain Sulu and the Excelsior" campaign fifteen years ago. What a crock.

Why was it a crock? Did they ask for money? Pity Paramount didn't take advantage when DTVs were a thing.

Jimmy Diggs tried to do it as a CGI thing with Enterprise-B rather than Excelsior.

Then after the New Voyages episode Marc Zicree pitched it as a web series but sadly Takei isn't getting younger and the ship has sailed.

Titan would have been good too (done properly not a hokey fundraising campaign) but again the ship has sailed right by.

 

[Danlav05]

I guess Renegades fills the void of having old stars return!

 

[HMS Ark Royal]

Again, copyright law is boring and confusing, the average joe just doesn't have interest. Unless there's something truly scandalous (like Watergate-level intrigue, a murder, an illicit sexual affair or some drug ring activity run out of Ares Studio), expect the masses to not pay much attention.

Why do you think they got Cushman in...?