I hope you will be contacting the police or FBI to have them deal with this. Perhaps even Paramount's legal team should be made aware of this?
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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That's outrageous. I am so sorry.
It's sad that you as a journalist with an interest in the subject is being threatened, from offering legitimate commentary on pending litigation.
I very rarely post on these forums but have been keeping track of this thread as I'm very interested in its proceedings. I'd like to echo what Firebird said.. making death threats over such a silly thing as a 'fan film' is just... I don't really have the words. Contact the police or the FBI so that they can look into it.
Skip, I am sad to hear this has happened to you. If these are just anonymous threats from fans, I would ask that you weigh the validity of these threats and try not to give in fear. As someone who is well versed in the law practice, you should know what avenues can be taken to deal with this. If you need myself or some others you have come to trust here to look into these issues, you can reach us through back (non public) channels such PM's etc.. We have your back man.
The latest development of "serious threats" is quite disturbing. If it came from anyone on the Axanar Production team, I would hope it would come to the attention of law enforcement.
That said, I understand the desire just to take the articles down and walk away quietly. Nobody needs that headache, regardless of if it means they go unpunished for such egregious and terroristic behavior.
That said, I understand the desire just to take the articles down and walk away quietly. Nobody needs that headache, regardless of if it means they go unpunished for such egregious and terroristic behavior.
I will echo what others have said: please call the authorities and let them know so it can be dealt with. Nobody has the right to silence you in such a way, regardless of whether or not they like what you have to say.
To anyone over in the Axanar camp who's enough of an idiot to send such threats: it doesn't make you look tough. It doesn't help Axanar's case. It only shows you as the insecure child you are. If you're so butthurt over this that you'll threaten people, all I can say is: GET A LIFE!
As for Alec calling us all trolls... Whatever. That's a matter of perspective. From mine, Alec Peters is the Troll King, and quite possibly a scam artist to boot. And if you ignore what you want to be true, and instead look at the evidence, the facts certainly bear that out. Look at what Alec Peters does, not what he says. They are two very different things.
If Alec wants to pretend differently, that's his prerogative. If the facts are different, then he should get them out there, in a provable manner. That would shut us "trolls" up far more effectively than anything else possibly could.
And by "proof", I do not mean statements that 'we're talking to top people!'.
Heard that one before.
I call bullshit on the threats for starters.
Second, I don't understand the arrogance of the anti-Axanar people here.
People have been making Trek fan films for years with no problem. They get funding or do it themselves.
Everyone who contributed (to whatever website fundraising thing they used) knew what they were getting into.
As for the big "scandal" of the carpet. IT'S A FRIGGIN OFFICE. You don't walk around on plywood especially if you have actors (known and unknown) coming to meet there. Let Axanar live or die by it's final product, not by BBS trolls who think they know how everything "should" be done.
DISCLAIMER: I have no affiliation with Axanar or any other fan film other than being a viewer and a Trek fan since 1966.
Second, I don't understand the arrogance of the anti-Axanar people here.
People have been making Trek fan films for years with no problem. They get funding or do it themselves.
Everyone who contributed (to whatever website fundraising thing they used) knew what they were getting into.
As for the big "scandal" of the carpet. IT'S A FRIGGIN OFFICE. You don't walk around on plywood especially if you have actors (known and unknown) coming to meet there. Let Axanar live or die by it's final product, not by BBS trolls who think they know how everything "should" be done.
DISCLAIMER: I have no affiliation with Axanar or any other fan film other than being a viewer and a Trek fan since 1966.
Eh, Alec's just a blowhard...and I guarantee that most of us are having a better week than he is. 
Take it up with CBS, the people that Star Trek belongs to.
Take it up with CBS, the people that Star Trek belongs to.
I know I am - I just had sex!Eh, Alec's just a blowhard...and I guarantee that most of us are having a better week than he is.
Yet the way your post reads seems very close to the verbiage used by Alec, et al.
And I haven't read anything but what's posted here. I haven't been to the Axanar site since a few weeks ago (or whenever it was) and saw the trailer.
I know CBS is the owner, but they let everyone do these fan films for years. Why are they picking on one all of a sudden? Is it the fundraising? From what I read here, they knew about it. They did nothing to stop it when it was starting. Now, it would be a logistic nightmare to clean up.
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Actually, if you read the Wrap Article from August, and Peters own statement released from the Axanar Website, CBS Expressed concern about the project back at STLV.
As far as what's different about Axanar, vs. Other Fan Productions...
Other fan productions were by and large built with monies from the producers (Not sure about Renegades, on that one). The production Teams of NV, and ST:C have sunk far more money into the projects than they have expensed out. No one from NV, ST:C, Renegades, or any other Fan film that I am aware of, paid their principle producer a full time salary. When you pay someone to produce your fan film, it ceases being a fan film and becomes a professional production.
No other fan film that I am aware of has as "Donor Store" No other fan film that I am aware of, has announced plans to take the facilities created, the infrastructure created, using Fan donations and parley them into an Independent for profit Production venture....
I donated to Axanar to make a fan film, not to make Ares Studios. And Every time, the Production spends $1.01, for something that has long term (Post axanar) benefit, as opposed to just spending $1.00 to make the film, they are being poor stewards of donated dollars. Every dollar spent, on something not directly tied to making Axanar, is another dollar that will need to be raise to complete this film.
As far as the Carpet, it's just another example, of putting the cart before the horse. A fan film doesn't need expansive new offices. They just don't. Although an independent film studio might.... a Prop Auction business might.
Maybe it because the others actually made FILMS.
How is anything I said inconsistent with anything I said?
Pretty sure that is was a myriad of things that added up. From paying themselves salaries from donations, to selling coffee with CBS' IP on it, to spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on a warehouse that has sat mostly empty, to the carpeting (it already had carpet, there's a picture of people carrying out the old carpet).
CBS needed to come down on this hard.
Why not? I thought it was a fan-film. As a donor, you're okay with them spending thousands of dollars on non-essential stuff like carpeting? Seriously, why do they need an office at all for an amateur fan-film? No other production (that's been going on for years as even you say) have used donor funds so ridiculously.
They broke the law, went far beyond other productions, turned a profit, engaged in commerce-- it's time for them to pay the piper. You're out of luck, pal.
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