Anyone notice, that these podcasts are nothing but shameless self promotion... Can they go longer than 60 seconds without congratulating themselves on either the success of their fundraiser, the Vulcan Scene, and/or Prelude....
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Anyone notice, that these podcasts are nothing but shameless self promotion... Can they go longer than 60 seconds without congratulating themselves on either the success of their fundraiser, the Vulcan Scene, and/or Prelude....
Didn't want to quote your entire post, only to respond that what you say is eminently reasonable.
I tend to agree with your assessment of the whole situation. Don't ascribe to avarice what can be explained by less egregious shortcomings - disorganization, overreaching, vanity...
So they posted this around 11:15 PM Eastern last night (give or take)
Wouldn't delaying a month due to the lawsuit be a change? This is either accidental incompetence by not telling the social media person a very important detail or lying to keep the money rolling in.
Wouldn't delaying a month due to the lawsuit be a change? This is either accidental incompetence by not telling the social media person a very important detail or lying to keep the money rolling in.
Yes it was a well thought out and reasonable opinion. Refreshing. I wouldn't have any problem with all the travel and promotion either if it was after the film was in the can. I can understand doing some cons in the LA market but trips to Vegas on the doners dimes.....just doesn't seem quite right. They just forgot their original goal all together it seems. Tony Todd even tweeted it should have been finished long ago.
How does this continue on? How does this not damage their case further? I mean, it's one thing to be like "Our bad, CBS, we see your point." and another to be "Damn the lawsuits! Full speed ahead!" (with due apologies to Admiral Farragut).So they posted this around 11:15 PM Eastern last night (give or take)
Wouldn't delaying a month due to the lawsuit be a change? This is either accidental incompetence by not telling the social media person a very important detail or lying to keep the money rolling in.
This is just staggering...
I would be curious if Tony Todd would consent to an interview to share his thoughts and insights in to his leaving, and why it wasn't made public.
Do you not see this when you view your posts?
no, just report. I assume a time period or posting count has to be met. I am fine with it in most cases. Not sure how it would work with a fairly quiet topic where there are readers but someone is basically posting updates. But something has to be done to prevent wallpapering on any board. I am ok with this idea.
Yes, reasonable. I don't want to see Trek fans go up in flames. But while I can fully understand getting overambitious, building the physical infrastructure for a business in a premeditated way while pushing back the funded project repeatedly isn't what crowdfunding is understood by the fans to be, and it isn't "nonprofit" in the eyes of anybody.
And then there is the blatant licensing issue. Just listen to the segment. At the start they are discussing a pewter game pieces based on Axanar ships, for which "they already have a licensing agreement set up", presumably to license to a FASA-like game. The moderator says "oh cool, that's a shuttle isn't it" to which they all agree. Then later in the segment, the producer and Alec talk about how they approached CBS for licensing and were turned down because they were a fan film. If Axanar thought they had to license the pieces from CBS, then they thought they might be infringing on IP. Yet they not only went ahead with it, they set up at least documents for licensing it as their IP, to others.
CBS could probably win most of their case just on the game pieces.
I really would like to cut slack to every one of them, but with things like this, I just don't see how it is possible. They are apparently trying to bootstrap themselves into owning and operating a major SF production studio by using fan money and CBS/Paramount IP. That isn't scope creep.
So they posted this around 11:15 PM Eastern last night (give or take)
Wouldn't delaying a month due to the lawsuit be a change? This is either accidental incompetence by not telling the social media person a very important detail or lying to keep the money rolling in.
"Nothing has changed." TRANSLATION: We continue to move farther up shit's creek. Still no paddle.
It's not even 9am in Cali...
It's not even 9am in Cali...
I know. I was talking about sometime today.
Do they need an actual attorney to file their answer?
I half expect them to announce layoffs and indefinite pause in an effort to enter discussion with CBS having taken the biggest violation (future brand threats and revenue) off the table. At least, I'd expect that if Axanar's crack IP law firm exists and gives the advice I imagine they'd offer.
Greg, sorry for the off-topic but do you think it'd be okay for other productions to use the same text? This is much better than what we currently use.
Also, I Googled looking for this text,and I found other productions (besides ours) that seem to be using this language. I presume they lifted it from us, rather than having arrived at this same language through their own independent interactions with CBS.
I don't see any problems with you using this same language.
Thanks, appreciate it. I didn't want to borrow without asking first.
Proper multi-quote is back! Yay!
That's what I've wanted to believe, but the more I see, the more I wonder. Most of my posts are tongue-in-cheek, intended to amuse -- but as time goes by, and as they continue failing to do the things an above-board production (professional or otherwise) would do in this situation...
Well, they're not doing their reputations any favors, let's put it that way.
That's one hell of a loss of perspective on their part.
I can't figure out if it's malicious or not, but there's definitely something hinky going on. No one with an ounce of honor is going to build out professional-level offices to do a fan production -- not at first, anyway. There's a whole lot of cart-before-the-horse going on here.
The more honorable thing would have been to get the film in the can, and then use the leftovers for the office construction so they could do more films, but that's not what happened.
Y'know, half the reason the story interested me so much was because the quality was so good on Prelude. Say what you will about the script or the acting, it still looked like something you might see on TV. That was pretty cool, and I really wanted to see how they could do with a feature-length film.
Take that away, though, and shoot it for a fraction of the budget, and I'm suddenly skeptical. I'm not sure I'd be nearly as interested in the story.
Not sure what that says.
That's what I've wanted to believe, but the more I see, the more I wonder. Most of my posts are tongue-in-cheek, intended to amuse -- but as time goes by, and as they continue failing to do the things an above-board production (professional or otherwise) would do in this situation...
Well, they're not doing their reputations any favors, let's put it that way.
That's one hell of a loss of perspective on their part.
I can't figure out if it's malicious or not, but there's definitely something hinky going on. No one with an ounce of honor is going to build out professional-level offices to do a fan production -- not at first, anyway. There's a whole lot of cart-before-the-horse going on here.
The more honorable thing would have been to get the film in the can, and then use the leftovers for the office construction so they could do more films, but that's not what happened.
Y'know, half the reason the story interested me so much was because the quality was so good on Prelude. Say what you will about the script or the acting, it still looked like something you might see on TV. That was pretty cool, and I really wanted to see how they could do with a feature-length film.
Take that away, though, and shoot it for a fraction of the budget, and I'm suddenly skeptical. I'm not sure I'd be nearly as interested in the story.
Not sure what that says.
Obviously, manpower is an issue. But they're using manpower to build walls and lay carpet. Their first goal should've been to had the sets completed before building studio offices.
Their priorities seem to have grown more and more out of whack.
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