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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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So. . . What's the goss then. . anyone managed to keep a post that depicts the not so rose tinted view of Mr Peters and his endeavours past and present from being deleted.

I posted a honest question on the axanar page for myself to be banned from posting and my post deleted and I waste even being nasty just asked a civil honest question.
^^^^ Now that brings up something I have sort of casually noted while I have perusing the axanar website over the past days trying to figure out how I'm feeling about all this. Casually noting how unusual to see no comments in page after page of a website in a public comment section, on the Internet, that were less than fully supportive. My memory of them is that though there actually are fewer comments than I have come to expect on the Internet they have been unanimously 'Good job you, behind you all the way' types of posts.

So what you guy are saying is that there is a censorship being implemented in the comments to spin the perception the public response?

I would have gone back and verified that I really 'am' remembering accurately, to check that maybe I had just missed any less than stellar comments but the axanar productions website has been down or offline for several hours now... so I thought I'd ask if that was what you and the Lyn Wright post was about.
 
I hope you are joking about ST:ID. Among the many problems was the Magic Blood...

About six months before "Into Darkness" was being filmed, a work colleague was part of an international trial, whereby she gave up some blood over several visits, it was reduced down into a serum, then reinjected into a problematic ankle injury (which had resisted a decade of various attempts to repair it). The serum worked and her ankle is as good as new.

Sitting in the cinema at the world premiere of STiD, and hearing fans complain about "magic blood" in the 23rd century, was quite bemusing. If the advances they've already made in the early 21st century are any indication, "magic blood" from super humans, 200 years in the future, sounds very plausible.
 
Axanar website is down.. apparently they're migrating to another provider or something according to a comment on "I Stand with CBS."

Don't see any official statement from AP or anyone else..
 
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Axanar website is down.. apparently they're moving servers according to a comment on "I Stand with CBS."

Don't see any official statement from AP or anyone else..
One has to wonder if their web-hosting service provider said: "Sorry, you gotta go as we don't want to be named in any lawsuit for hosting possible infringing material":ack:
 
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Good God -- he's just poking them in the CBS eye again and again and shouting at them: I triple dog dar you!

And anybody who uses "haters" in a non-humorous way, deserves to be destroyed.


I had to log in again. Apparently XenForo is unaware it's already in use:
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I was looking for info on their site being down, and found this one that I missed @ https://www.facebook.com/StarTrekAxanar/

Justin Mathias: I'm biting my nails because there hasn't been new info out since the announcement of the lawsuit.
Axanar: Well, there was no Cease & Desist. That is a letter you get from a lawyer. This was a lawsuit. And the reason there is no info is that we can't say anything publicly that might damage our case.

So according to AP there was no C&D to ignore. Interesting; that's the first "official" word I've seen on that topic. As far as not being able to say anything that might damage their case... Didn't someone make a comment about spacedock doors earlier? :D
 
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It's a "high profile" case... in Peters' little pond where he's a bloated, 55-year-old big fish. But... "High profile" defendant?

Forgive me, but ... Who dat?

The thing that's struck me for awhile now is how unprofessional and immature he can come across. It's very off-putting, and this latest post is no exception. Even if they were in the right, how immature is it to say you're sitting around laughing at what people are saying? Do whatever you need to in order to blow off steam, but don't post about it. It just makes the person look immature and insecure. I'd be embarrassed to work with someone who behaved like this.
 
Nah. The writer thought he could get away with doing something cute.

I actually like most of ST:ID, but that particular scene made me laugh the first time, and pretty much just irritated me after that. The movie would be better if it were edited out.

If I have one complaint about nuTrek, it's that it tends to lean a little too much to the slapstick side at times. Beyond that... I'll watch 'em, and that says enough. :shrug:
I actually really loved Spock' yelling out Khan. First and foremost remember when vulcan's lose their cool, they really lose their cool, and this Spock and this Kirk are close, certainly closer then at this stage in the Prime Universe (which is before they would have served together), and add to this Spock having been exposed to lose on a scale that prime Universe Spock wouldn't experience in his own universe. That and dialogue and events that occur differently and at a much later date in the Prime Universe also play into two well regarded Next generation episodes, Cause and Effect and Parallels, where we can see how changes in time can have similar events occur at different times, and by different people.

As for JJ Trek being campy at times, that absolutely goes back to TOS, which used humor far, far more often then later series, or even in many cases more then the original TOS films (Voyage Home of course would be a big exception). Heck I just rewatched Ultimate Computer last night, and after the enterprise under the control of the M5 completely kills all life on a constitution class ship and dozens on the other three, what happens the episode ends with Kirk, Spock and McCoy sharing a little humor. This wasn't an example of rare behavior this was an example of the typical manner of how the show ended, let alone the humor that could be in the middle of an episode, even quite serious episodes. It was extremely rare for the show not to end, completely and inappropriately with humor, when the story absolutely shouldn't.

In fact in my opinion, JJ films have often been closer in spirit to how Trek was presented (just with state of the art methods of today) then most of the Trek that came after the Turnabout Intruder. Of the original TOS films the one that I felt most closely feels like TOS is the Undiscovered Country. That isn't my favorite TOS film, but it certainly felt in all aspects to be the film most like TOS, followed of course in my opinion Trek 2009, into Darkness, Voyage Home, Search for Spock, Final Frontier, wrath of Khan and finally the Motion Picture. Of course my ranking of how I judge the quality of the final product as film is Wrath of Khan, Star Trek 2009, Into Darkness, Undiscovered Country, Search for Spock, Motion Picture (this movie and the it's style is much better suited if it was made for TNG then for TOS, and last in every way in my book the Final Frontier. Of course in my opinion, you want to watch quality Star Trek, you don't watch a movie to do that (overall I am not the biggest fan of Trek on film. I think each of the live tv series have all produced several episodes that i would rank better then the movie I like best.

An example of another TOS fan, a nearly original one (I have home film of me as a very young child totally enthralled by it, but my actually real memories off Trek aren't until it was put into national syndication in the early 70's), that loved TOS through to JJ Trek (warts and all, and that applies to all versions, TOS, Animated, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT and reboot universe). And the attitude that AP and Crew are the carriers of "real" Trek more then anything make's me want to see their efforts turn to folly and ruin.
 
I actually really loved Spock' yelling out Khan.

Not going to debate the matter; all opinions are valid. :) All I will say is that I don't mind humor; nuTrek just tends to go a bit more over the top than it should IMO. I don't compare it to TOS; I evaluate it for what it is.

And the attitude that AP and Crew are the carriers of "real" Trek more then anything make's me want to see their efforts turn to folly and ruin.

Their egos are so big, I can feel the gravitational pull from here. And I'm still not convinced that what we got out of it would have met the standard they set for themselves.

And now I doubt we'll ever know.
 
About six months before "Into Darkness" was being filmed, a work colleague was part of an international trial, whereby she gave up some blood over several visits, it was reduced down into a serum, then reinjected into a problematic ankle injury (which had resisted a decade of various attempts to repair it). The serum worked and her ankle is as good as new.

Sitting in the cinema at the world premiere of STiD, and hearing fans complain about "magic blood" in the 23rd century, was quite bemusing. If the advances they've already made in the early 21st century are any indication, "magic blood" from super humans, 200 years in the future, sounds very plausible.

To me the magic blood itself is an issue but not quite the issue, though it is way too convenient an out. The biggest offense where it is concerned is that it came out of nowhere. Where was this magic blood in the Prime Universe? Why didn't Khan or the other augments (if Khan isn't the only one who possesses it) use the magic blood to help their compatriots survive on Ceti Alpha V? Especially why didn't Khan use magic blood to keep Lt. McGivers alive on Ceti Alpha V? Why didn't the augments on Enterprise have magic blood?

And if Khan is the only person who has this magic blood, how did he get it? Was it from 20th century genetic engineering? Was it from Section 31? I think it needed to be explained why Khan had this ability that he didn't have before. And if its just 23rd century medicine where was this magic blood in the Prime Universe? Did the time line divergence led to a big leap in technological and medical sciences for the alternate universe? Could Nero's ship have played a part in that?
 
I'd say it's obviously implied that Khan Prime had the same "magic blood" - the properties of which are referenced in Enterprise's Augment Arc, where Arik Soong talks about how the banned technology could have cured and saved Henry Archer, and how Augments are immune to illness.
Repairing the damage done by brain-eating parasites is apparently beyond Khan's blood's regenerative abilities.
 
To me the magic blood itself is an issue but not quite the issue, though it is way too convenient an out.

Also, thousands of people die in ST ID, but "magic blood" is only used(or only works) on Kirk for some reason... it was a very cheap and poorly thought out cop-out.
 
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