CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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If I were the lawyer that picked that straw I think I'd type my resignation and go somewhere else at this point...
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Which is another reason he needs to shut up. What he's essentially saying is "we intend to continue acting against the explicit legal and authoritative word from the IP holder, by making this film anyway."They mentioned in one of the quotes that filming begins in February. They hadn't even started filming yet?!?!?
Well, that certainly makes me feel better about not pursuing my idea of doing 50 pieces of fan-art over 2016 to celebrate the anniversary. I suppose I'll keep anything Trek-related I do on the QT for the next year or so.
So they're using the crowd funding to basically build a studio for use on other projects??
That's an absolute disgrace if true.
Did they buy the studio or was it rented
Something tells me you won't get sued for fan art.
Does anyone have a good caption for this picture?
And you thought Liquidator Brunt was bad...
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Actually, I quit in 1990 as I felt I was being asked to skirt the line on ethics. I didn't like the person I was becoming.
They rented the warehouse, but had to do the work to convert it into a studio. It was less expensive than renting a ready-made studio, I'd assume both because the rent is cheaper on a warehouse, and because they'll need it longer since they're low budget means they can't build and film as quickly as a larger production. They were also hoping to be able to continue to use the studio for other projects after Axanar, so it was something of an investment.
I hope not. Part of me is wondering if this is why Strange New Worlds is back and why they've started taking fan art for the Ships of the Line calendars. With these being in place again that may have an affect too.
I've just been having weird feelings about Trek and Paramount lately... like something along these lines was going to happen. These feelings started around the time that the new series was announced.
Part of me wants to agree a little. But another part wants to point out that if copyright hadn't been extended beyond the intentions of the Founders (referring to here in the US), mostly by purchased legislation at the behest of copyright holders, Star Trek and quite a lot else would be public domain right now. (I'd have no problem with extending the term to 30 years, based on longer lifespans - but the actual situation is out of control, really.)
None of which is to speak in defense of this Alec fellow, whose issues seems to go well beyond simply using someone else's IP.
My thing is, I don't want to be sued myself especially since I was creating art and concepts for FREE for this production. I was helping out for my love of Trek and to get some concept design cred on a production.
It would be bitterly ironic, considering, but if what the Enterprise-D 3D model guy said is accurate, it's enough to make me want to be more careful and circumspect about anything I'd do that's more ambitious than a one-off picture or something. I've never made IO9 or blown up on Reddit or anything, but I've had a couple of ideas for the next year that might have that potential if I did them well, and if the coming weeks and months confirm there's a trend of CBS coming down on fan works that attract wide attention, I'm going to have to be very careful about what I release and how I promote it and myself.
ETA: Looking more closely at the E-D guy's Reddit history, and noticing that the website for the project is back up, it may be that CBS was focusing particularly on fan project where money changes hands (it seems all he had to do to get back in their good graces was stop running a Patreon), so it might not be as bad as it sounded from that post.
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I recommend you contact a lawyer, if you have one. The CBS suit names 20 John Doe defendants....
Titan Designer, I would not go crazy, but its good to talk to the production staff at Axanar and maybe talk to a lawyer.
But I think this is done to put pressure on Alec and the people on the top by using the lower member staff to pressure the top to stop production.
But I think this is done to put pressure on Alec and the people on the top by using the lower member staff to pressure the top to stop production.
There are numerous professional movie stars that act like spoiled children. Charlie Sheen comes to mind.
Actually no. It's been on their last kickstarter that they needed funds to rent the warehouse and convert it into the studio which would A) make axanar and B) be available for future projects of the for profit variety that would not require massive fundraising efforts.
Part of that is building the soundstage, whatever that entails, and offices; their desks were out in the lobby of the building, according to their blog.
Anyone who donated without fully reading the kickstarter description (I didn't, FYI) and is shocked at this; well there's nothing new here, folks.
I'm curious to know what people berating Peters for creating his own studio from the Axanar crowdfunding campaigns - when (as far as I'm concerned) the plans for developing the studio were there from the beginning, although the costs have gone up since - would suggest as a reasonable alternative, if you're aiming for a Hollywood quality fanfilm?
Renting a studio may be more cost effective, the claim by Axanar is that in the long run, making your own is cheaper.
You'd probably have to make your own sets; where are you going to store them?
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