Prelude cost around $133,000. We detail the spending and questioned costs for it, and what's been spent so far on Axanar itself in the AxaMonitor article, "Annual Report: A Pattern of Obfuscation?"
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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That 'donor' is not actually Marc Cushman. Its Twitter bio states it's a parody account.
Happy to be corrected! Cheers!
Although... the fact that a Marc Cushman parody account even exists is something I find extremely bizarre!
That's what he wants you to think.
A perhaps doubly ironic use of Disney IP to illustrate an Axanar blog post about crowdfunding.
Alec Peters in today's Axanar blog:
« Simply from a business perspective, Star Trek Continues made a very poor decision … two, in fact. Vic decided to switch from Kickstarter to Indiegogo and he set their goal too high. »
Of course, this elides the fact that Axanar switched from Kickstarter to Indiegogo, too, and didn't raise enough in its initial 30-day campaign to fully fund it film either.
Or, that even six months after beginning its Indiegogo effort, it still fell far shy of the amount it needed to make the film (see graph below).
Peters again:
« You could make the argument that we should have stayed on Kickstarter—since we did make less on our third campaign than we did on our second. But Indiegogo just made a compelling case for us. ... [Continues knows it's] not going to bring to bear all the marketing efforts that Axanar brought to bear, so why are you asking for 65% more than you made in your last Kickstarter? There’s no evidence that you can make more money on Indiegogo than you did on Kickstarter. »
While that's true, the advantage Indiegogo offers over Kickstarter is that you get to keep everything you raise, even if you fall short of your goal. That's a big incentive, both to move to Indiegogo and to set a higher goal. Read the entire Axanar blog post »
AP should learn to shut the fuck up.
Big difference between AP's projects and STC: STC delivers what it promises. It puts it all on the screen. And STC puts out whole episodes for substantially less than AP's twenty minute trailer. Hell, STC puts out 2-3 episodes for what AP's trailer costs.
Big difference between AP's projects and STC: STC delivers what it promises. It puts it all on the screen. And STC puts out whole episodes for substantially less than AP's twenty minute trailer. Hell, STC puts out 2-3 episodes for what AP's trailer costs.
And fighting a legal battle you can't win against a Fortune 500 company, one of the three founding networks in US television, is a smart business decision??????
Yeah, I'm not sure Peters or Bawden should be criticizing what Star Trek: Continues did in their campaign, and for the exact reason you mention: they actually MAKE something.
In 2014 A.P. said he went out to raise $20,000- $30,000 US and the cost wound up at $70,000, end up raising $101,000. So I am thinking he has way over billed the cost of his promo film.
Skip up to the 19:00 mins mark in this clip.
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<sigh> yeah - so disturbing
A perhaps doubly ironic use of Disney IP to illustrate an Axanar blog post about crowdfunding.
Alec Peters in today's Axanar blog:
« Simply from a business perspective, Star Trek Continues made a very poor decision … two, in fact. Vic decided to switch from Kickstarter to Indiegogo and he set their goal too high. »Of course, this elides the fact .........
and unexpectedly that picture made me feel so Angry
I didn't watch the video, no time at the moment.
Reading between the lines, are you insinuating that there might have been a little, just a little, embezzlement? Because that would be an interesting plot twist.
That's what AP does... He likes to tease others. He wants almost desperately to make others angry.
His disadvantage, though, is his own unbalanced anger management. That's what leads permanently to a 24/7 cleaning crew for the mess he creates.
Edit: Ah, I love popcorn!
I found that blog post highly ironic, when it mentions Peters as a fundraising expert, and mentions his alledged business experience!
Embezzlement? I'm not a lawyer so I couldn't do that, just questioning if A.P. went on a drunken binge to Rio if the cost would hit $155,000 next week.
What I love best is that Vic will never stoop so low to publicly bash Alec in such a brash and tactless way. Vic lets his producing record speak for itself. Alec ain't got a ledge to stand on until he can deliver anything on time or on the originally-set budget.
Phew! For a second there, I thought I was actually gonna have to have empathy for Cushman.
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I remember that post, but the "E" word hadn't occurred to me yet. Discovery is going to be interesting, to say the least.
The little factory I run cuts through 50-80 grand a month and by the 5th of the next month I have to account for every penny. There is no way a third grader would miss this number by $63 thousand dollars unless he wasn't truthful then or he hasn't been truthful since then.
his $30 grand turned into $70 grand
his $70 grand turned into $133 grand
Mister Exec, do you always miss your numbers by a factor of 49%?
You are not dealing with a person that is using real numbers to sell his product to you.
Or is my overly simple mind missing something?
his $30 grand turned into $70 grand
his $70 grand turned into $133 grand
Mister Exec, do you always miss your numbers by a factor of 49%?
You are not dealing with a person that is using real numbers to sell his product to you.
Or is my overly simple mind missing something?
Don't attribute criminal acts to what is more likely simple (and expensive!) mission creep. There is absolutely no evidence that points to embezzlement. There are certainly financial irregularities, as I noted in my analysis on AxaMonitor, but nothing to suggest money was stolen, just spent in less than efficient ways.
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A perhaps doubly ironic use of Disney IP to illustrate an Axanar blog post about crowdfunding.
Alec Peters in today's Axanar blog:
« Simply from a business perspective, Star Trek Continues made a very poor decision … two, in fact. Vic decided to switch from Kickstarter to Indiegogo and he set their goal too high. »
Of course, this elides the fact that Axanar switched from Kickstarter to Indiegogo, too, and didn't raise enough in its initial 30-day campaign to fully fund it film either.
Or, that even six months after beginning its Indiegogo effort, it still fell far shy of the amount it needed to make the film (see graph below).
Peters again:
« You could make the argument that we should have stayed on Kickstarter—since we did make less on our third campaign than we did on our second. But Indiegogo just made a compelling case for us. ... [Continues knows it's] not going to bring to bear all the marketing efforts that Axanar brought to bear, so why are you asking for 65% more than you made in your last Kickstarter? There’s no evidence that you can make more money on Indiegogo than you did on Kickstarter. »
While that's true, the advantage Indiegogo offers over Kickstarter is that you get to keep everything you raise, even if you fall short of your goal. That's a big incentive, both to move to Indiegogo and to set a higher goal. Read the entire Axanar blog post »
Even at this point Alec is using up donor mindspace with trashings of other fanfilms? The silent "go to hell"s from his readership must be growing rapidly.
Has Alec yet explained to his donors why it is that none of the arguments he made were considered valid by the judge? Not a single argument?
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