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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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muCephi said:
He clearly wanted to have a peg to hang the trashing of "site-down" speculators onto, and decorate that with spleen-venting ad-hominem distractions for donors to consume instead of contemplating why they weren't told of the clearly excessive risk the Axanar business strategies posed to the project. :)
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Makes one wonder what this "multinational corporation" Terry's working for would think if they saw how he behaves online? People have been fired for far less than he's said and done.
 
Maurice said:
Note it has to be a described as a "major multinational corporation" because posturing.
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It also has the effect of seeming to amplify the importance of his position at said organization.

If he's working 10x4, then he's probably not very high level, though there are exceptions to that rule.
 
Ion said:
It also has the effect of seeming to amplify the importance of his position at said organization.

If he's working 10x4, then he's probably not very high level, though there are exceptions to that rule.
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I would love to know who it is mainly because erm i would email a copy of that post to them because anyone who uses them terms in public deserves everything coming to them.
 
Jam3s1701 said:
I would love to know who it is mainly because erm i would email a copy of that post to them because anyone who uses them terms in public deserves everything coming to them.
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If he's named as a Doe, his bank account will be emptied/checks garnished and he'll be lucky to keep his job. That'll most definitely teach him some humility.
 
As long as he is not passing his writings off as being representative of said corporation, who cares? Let's not get personal here.

Kor
 
ThankYouGeneR said:
Sooo.... if the for profit entity being lined up to "reimburse Axanar Productions for the fan-donated money it invested in the commercial project, Peters said"http://1701news.com/node/1084/lawsuit-plagued-axanar-looking-private-investors.html

Hold on - did he just say Peters actually said the studio is a commercial project?? I thought that it being a commercial project was being flatly denied.
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[EDIT: I can not yet find anywhere he does say that]
muCephi said:
hm, if he said that, more grist for CBS/P and bloggers...
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hmm... Hold that thought. I'm now backtracking to see if I can confirm a place where Peters can actually be quoted saying the studio is a commercial project because if I can't I will have been in error by quoting someone else saying that he said that.

[EDIT: Have so far not been able to find anywhere Mr. Peters actually says 'commercial project'. So have gone back to edit my post by striking that line. Will unstrike it if I do find evidence he said those words and will link to where I find it]
 
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Kor said:
As long as he is not passing his writings off as being representative of said corporation, who cares? Let's not get personal here.

Kor
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I guess things in the USA are Diff from the UK as I know for a fact from personal experiences in having to reprimand staff in my company after being directed to do so by HR and my boss after they posted stuff like this on social media that is does not matter if you are directly repping your company or not what you put on FB etc can be used against you as bringing the company into disrepute as you are repping the company all the time.
 
Wait a minute! The IT guy said he's working for free and even paying for the servers, ISP, and the power bill out of his own pocket and not taking donation money to pay for it all. And you're slamming him for not being able to watch it 24/7 because he has a real job??? Isn't that the way fan-films are supposed to be run?? Not paying the entire production crew a salary from donations, but rather as a hobby people put their own blood, sweet, tears, and money into. If they get some donations to help cover the costs, great!! But they shouldn't expect to not have to put some of their own money into it, let alone expect to get paid, for what should be a hobby. Right??? Cut the guy a bit of slack.

On the other hand, I don't know enough about web servers to say whether or not he was foolish for picking the platform he's using. I'm not qualified to second-guess him on that.
 
OK, now that this is revealed, can we jump back to the concern that the servers are physically owned by Axanar entities, not a remote service, and therefore Axanar can remove records? Everyone told me they did not own the servers when I brought it up before. Or is there enough information already in the public domain that it doesn't matter ?

RedForman said:
Well now we know why the site was down for a bit (and perhaps why Terry's been quiet.........apologies to those who are part of the C/P v Axanar facebook group - I'm not......).........

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Sgt_G said:
Wait a minute! The IT guy said he's working for free and even paying for the servers, ISP, and the power bill out of his own pocket and not taking donation money to pay for it all. And you're slamming him for not being able to watch it 24/7 because he has a real job??? Isn't that the way fan-films are supposed to be run?? Not paying the entire production crew a salary from donations, but rather as a hobby people put their own blood, sweet, tears, and money into. If they get some donations to help cover the costs, great!! But they shouldn't expect to not have to put some of their own money into it, let alone expect to get paid, for what should be a hobby. Right??? Cut the guy a bit of slack.

On the other hand, I don't know enough about web servers to say whether or not he was foolish for picking the platform he's using. I'm not qualified to second-guess him on that.
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No disrespect for his dedication. Its a fine platform that is largely managed by others. He had a little outage, he fixed it, he can't be on it all the time. Understandable... without the gratuitous extreme histrionics about Axanar critics being tagged onto the explanation.
 
Lynsioux said:
OK, now that this is revealed, can we jump back to the concern that the servers are physically owned by Axanar entities, not a remote service, and therefore Axanar can remove records? Everyone told me they did not own the servers when I brought it up before. Or is there enough information already in the public domain that it doesn't matter ?
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If they own the servers they could fail to make backups and institute a short retention policy like 90 days on corporate email. Outsourced email would be backed up by the commercial company for probably a year or more. As far as other records, one probably wouldn't consider keeping corporate records on a web-facing server, tho there could be servers isolated from the net too. Email is probably the real question.
 
Sgt_G said:
Wait a minute! The IT guy said he's working for free and even paying for the servers, ISP, and the power bill out of his own pocket and not taking donation money to pay for it all. And you're slamming him for not being able to watch it 24/7 because he has a real job??? Isn't that the way fan-films are supposed to be run??
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EXCEPT ... I don't believe him for a second. Remember, these are the bozos that claim $18 an hour is minimum wage. The same bozos like Burnett who claimed he wasn't getting paid (except for the times he got paid), etc.
 
Sgt_G said:
Wait a minute! The IT guy said he's working for free and even paying for the servers, ISP, and the power bill out of his own pocket and not taking donation money to pay for it all. And you're slamming him for not being able to watch it 24/7 because he has a real job???
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No. I'm slamming him because he posited that all criticism and speculation must be from "seriously stupid people that wouldn't know a server, or how they operate, if they were slammed over the head with one," when the man is himself clearly an amateur who does not know how to operate servers.

Direct quote, that, btw, in case you haven't actually read the post.

To put things in perspective: axanarproductions.com has a fairly sizable number of viewers. A competent admin does not "check servers" on their lunch break for site with that amount of traffic. There are freely available tools that do this automatically, and send alerts wherever you direct them (such as to your cell phone) when shit breaks. Anyone who has been in this business for any length of time is well aware of those tools because they are simply "must have" tools of the trade.

Any admin worth their salt would have long ago implemented that for Axanar's stuff, regardless that it's a private, non-profit, or whatever endeavor. To do otherwise is to risk your reputation in this business. You don't ever want to be known as "the guy who ran that crappy web site that wouldn't stay up", because that marks you as the amateur you are in the eyes of potential employers.

That he did not, tells me that he hasn't a clue, and shouldn't be throwing stones.


Amateurs like Mr. McIntosh, who freely call their end users idiots to their collective faces, are the reason IT tends be viewed as a bunch of neckbeards with no social skills.

That offends me.
 
Jam3s1701 said:
I guess things in the USA are Diff from the UK as I know for a fact from personal experiences in having to reprimand staff in my company after being directed to do so by HR and my boss after they posted stuff like this on social media that is does not matter if you are directly repping your company or not what you put on FB etc can be used against you as bringing the company into disrepute as you are repping the company all the time.
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I dunno. Companies I've worked for have had policies that if you do blogging or social media, you aren't allowed to specifically name the company or post pictures of the workplace. That always seemed fine to me, to keep someone's personal identity separate from the corporate identity, and not infringe on anyone's freedom of expression or activities on their own time.

It caused some ridicule and eye-rolling at one company I worked for years ago, when the new employee handbook specified that engaging in illegal activities and/or being arrested in your personal time away from work was grounds for termination. People sure value their freedom. :lol:

And I dare say that IT people tend toward eccentricity and a lack of tact (having worked among them for some years), so what he posted seems pretty typical. Um, not to stereotype, or anything.

Kor
 
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Kor said:
And I dare say that IT people tend toward eccentricity and a lack of tact (having worked among them for some years), so what he posted seems pretty typical. Um, not to stereotype, or anything.
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If that's typical where you work, you need a new IT staff. :)

I've worked with all manner of different personalities; it is, unfortunately, more common than it should be, but that's largely cultural. Most folks I've worked with are smart enough to keep their snarking internal and treat the users with respect. Shops that isn't true of, I leave very quickly.

Then again, I tend to work with people who realize that it's those people who pay our bills in the end, so YMMV. :)

But I digress. Back to Axanar!
 
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