CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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OK, I'll give it a try, Jespah lurok:
There's a Prop man who's sure all those Star Dates are gold
And he's buying a stairway to courtroom
When he gets there, he knows if the stores are all closed
With a word he can get what he came for
Ooh-ooh-hoo, hoo-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh
And he's buying a stairway to courtroom
There's a sign on the wall, but he wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
On a screen made of green there's a Red Shirt who sings
sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it makes me wonder
There's a feeling of wars when I look to the stars
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen lots of ships of the fleet
And the voices of those who stand looking
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, really makes me wonder
There's a Prop man who's sure all those Star Dates are gold
And he's buying a stairway to courtroom
When he gets there, he knows if the stores are all closed
With a word he can get what he came for
Ooh-ooh-hoo, hoo-ooh-ooh-ooh-ooh
And he's buying a stairway to courtroom
There's a sign on the wall, but he wants to be sure
'Cause you know sometimes words have two meanings
On a screen made of green there's a Red Shirt who sings
sometimes all of our thoughts are misgiven
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, it makes me wonder
There's a feeling of wars when I look to the stars
And my spirit is crying for leaving
In my thoughts I have seen lots of ships of the fleet
And the voices of those who stand looking
Ooh, it makes me wonder
Ooh, really makes me wonder
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What the hell? Do we have another Stairway to Heaven suit coming?
Nope, it's parody!
Not to mention that law firms may use their own non-partner staff to do the clerical things, and bill a couple hundred an hour. It seems like a major, major billing sink, making copies and charging 10x what Kinkos would bill.
Its also expensive because during depositions, all the chickens come home to roost.
I'm thinking about the Axanar Principal being deposed. If my understanding is correct a deposition has the lawyers for the two parties and the person being questioned and the court reporter. No judge. It's also my understanding that depositions can get extremely heated and lawyers will knowingly push buttons and legal boundaries to the max. Again, correct me if I'm wrong, all you experts, but wouldn't any objections be ruled on afterwards by a judge? It the Axanar Principal becomes unhinged by polite inquiries in a public setting, I can only imagine how he would react to someone who can badger, hector, bullyrag....whatever him in private without his Axanar Marines to back him up.
Again, if I'm wrong about any of this, Jespah, mkstewartesq, Carlos, Mike please say so.
Again, if I'm wrong about any of this, Jespah, mkstewartesq, Carlos, Mike please say so.
Yes, that is essentially correct. In a deposition, a lawyer may object to various questions posed to his or her client but, generally, that objection is made a part of the record for a judge to LATER rule on in court as to whether the answer can be admitted as evidence. But, generally speaking, the person being deposed still has to answer the question in the deposition and the judge later rules on whether that answer can be admitted into evidence depending on whether he sustains the objection or overrules it. So, yes, this is why depositions can get heated – especially if the person being deposed is angry that he has to answer a question (even though, if his attorney properly objected, the answer here she gives may never actually be admitted into court against him.)
M
I have conducted a lot of depositions, particularly for someone who didn't practice for too long.
In New York State (not necessarily the same rules), there are pretty much no objections you can make to stop questioning (as @mkstewartesq says, you make the objection and the ruling is reserved for later), although parties can go in for a ruling if you're in the courthouse or I imagine you can call a judge (it's been a while, and this may have changed). At least back in the day, they didn't much care unless you were really mean or really fishing. E. g. if the plaintiffs asked for AP's 8th grade transcript, Ranahan would be well within her rights to holler about that (hell, I would, too).
They can be as smooth and pleasant or as heated as the participants make them out to be. I've had some lovely chats with people on the record where they unwittingly contradicted their own sworn pleadings. I've also gotten the side-eye from Iranian housewives when I asked about their loss of consortium (that's the no-nookie cause of action) claims and then my questions about positions had to be translated into Farsi. A very nice guy who was the color of a yellow legal pad asked us afterwards where the nearest bar was. At about noon or so. Had a guy in Queens tell me his injury was that his aura was off. I had to ask what it was like before. I had to look up the nose of a guy who claimed a deviated septum and then, between me and his lawyer, we tried to explain his alleged injury on the record.
I was only the claims adjuster for the guy who was suing because he was bitten by a dog in the family jewels (he's fine! Seriously, he had no loss of functionality; the injury was purely cosmetic) but I did get to ask for pictures.
I'm so mean.
In New York State (not necessarily the same rules), there are pretty much no objections you can make to stop questioning (as @mkstewartesq says, you make the objection and the ruling is reserved for later), although parties can go in for a ruling if you're in the courthouse or I imagine you can call a judge (it's been a while, and this may have changed). At least back in the day, they didn't much care unless you were really mean or really fishing. E. g. if the plaintiffs asked for AP's 8th grade transcript, Ranahan would be well within her rights to holler about that (hell, I would, too).
They can be as smooth and pleasant or as heated as the participants make them out to be. I've had some lovely chats with people on the record where they unwittingly contradicted their own sworn pleadings. I've also gotten the side-eye from Iranian housewives when I asked about their loss of consortium (that's the no-nookie cause of action) claims and then my questions about positions had to be translated into Farsi. A very nice guy who was the color of a yellow legal pad asked us afterwards where the nearest bar was. At about noon or so. Had a guy in Queens tell me his injury was that his aura was off. I had to ask what it was like before. I had to look up the nose of a guy who claimed a deviated septum and then, between me and his lawyer, we tried to explain his alleged injury on the record.
I was only the claims adjuster for the guy who was suing because he was bitten by a dog in the family jewels (he's fine! Seriously, he had no loss of functionality; the injury was purely cosmetic) but I did get to ask for pictures.
I'm so mean.
And, @jespah, if I were the opposing counsel I would fight you down to the ground to get you to produce that document, because you and I know full well that it probably contains notations such as "Alec is a friendly child but needs to stop spending all his time drawing Star Trek spaceships" and that statement goes 100% toward showing that he has a long history of infringing CBS's copyrights. Don't you dare try to keep admissible evidence out of my hands like that again.
M
And his nursery school records (apart from that unfortunate paste consumption incident which we will not elaborate on) prove he was saying, "Pew, pew!" at least 4 decades ago. Never mind that this school was held in a church.
So, let me get this straight...you're beaming (in a sense) because you got to legally ask for a D**k Pic? You naughty girl
[I mean the above in fun - no offense is intended]
Is there really that much that can be said about Shatner's paternity suit?
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OK. They're probably asking the same thing about Axanar.
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Zavin: For the record, what is your name?
Peters: Objection! I don't have to respond to haters!
Forget about Kickstarter....I bet Zavin versus AP would be big-ass pay per view moneymaker! I'd sure as hell buy it!
Only quoted here because I did not see that it was possible to like a post more than once. Yes, outsiders probably definitely view us as a "need to get out of the house more" kind of folk.
M
Most of my injuries are purely cosmetic.
I've been questioned in three depositions in CA, so here's my experience for what it's worth:
The first two deposoition were in an arbitration over a software I.P. and terms of a decades old agreement. Lawyers for both sides were present along with an arbitrating judge present. When they questioned me the second time if there was anything the opposing team felt I was inconsistent on they popped up the playback of my testimony from the first deposition to try to undermine me, and they went after TEENY stuff like my definition of the the word "port" (as in software code). As certain Axahats can't keep their story straight from tweet to tweet, they'd get chewed to pieces in such a process.
The third deposition I did was for a civil case in which a developer I'd hired was suing another party for damages (the developer had been hit by a car, could not work, and lost a large contract I had awarded him because he could not meet the contracted deadline, so he sued the at-fault driver who'd hit him) and in that circumstace it was simply a court reporter and the plaintiff's lawyer gathering my testitmony for the record. The defendant settled, thus I was not brought back to be deposed by his lawyer nor asked to appear in court.
The first two deposoition were in an arbitration over a software I.P. and terms of a decades old agreement. Lawyers for both sides were present along with an arbitrating judge present. When they questioned me the second time if there was anything the opposing team felt I was inconsistent on they popped up the playback of my testimony from the first deposition to try to undermine me, and they went after TEENY stuff like my definition of the the word "port" (as in software code). As certain Axahats can't keep their story straight from tweet to tweet, they'd get chewed to pieces in such a process.
The third deposition I did was for a civil case in which a developer I'd hired was suing another party for damages (the developer had been hit by a car, could not work, and lost a large contract I had awarded him because he could not meet the contracted deadline, so he sued the at-fault driver who'd hit him) and in that circumstace it was simply a court reporter and the plaintiff's lawyer gathering my testitmony for the record. The defendant settled, thus I was not brought back to be deposed by his lawyer nor asked to appear in court.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
Some of you really need to Post in my Poetry Thread, here at the BBS! Wonderful stuff! And, carlosp, it does not get any better that Rodgers and Hammerstein! 
Ok, here's mine:
The Halls are alive, with the sound of gavels
The bench is the place, where it all goes down
The lies that were told to a thousand Trek Fans
Are sad, but we're glad that the Law's been told
We've got a man with a plan called Axanar
It's a shady deal
There's a script that they say does not exist
But it somehow materialized
He took some money, it's funny, it went for what?
We would like to know
He stole an IP from CB and Paramount
That was wrong, and he sure should have knooooown...
(Change key, up a whole tone)
Still waiting for ourrrrrrr goodies to arrive
(Star Trek Lady doing the Ah-ah-ah)
We gave to the cause, but they ain't arriiiiiived, ohhhhhhh
The Halls are allliiiiive.
(Softer, now)
With the sound of muuuuh-neeee$$$
Alex wants to justifyyyyyyyyy
Ok, here's mine:
The Halls are alive, with the sound of gavels
The bench is the place, where it all goes down
The lies that were told to a thousand Trek Fans
Are sad, but we're glad that the Law's been told
We've got a man with a plan called Axanar
It's a shady deal
There's a script that they say does not exist
But it somehow materialized
He took some money, it's funny, it went for what?
We would like to know
He stole an IP from CB and Paramount
That was wrong, and he sure should have knooooown...
(Change key, up a whole tone)
Still waiting for ourrrrrrr goodies to arrive
(Star Trek Lady doing the Ah-ah-ah)
We gave to the cause, but they ain't arriiiiiived, ohhhhhhh
The Halls are allliiiiive.
(Softer, now)
With the sound of muuuuh-neeee$$$
Alex wants to justifyyyyyyyyy
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