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CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

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I don't think an accurate prediction of the future can fit into a box that anyone would recognize as "Star Trek". I mean, even now people like Stephen Hawking are predicting that A.I. will make humans obsolete. Something akin to a Kubrick A.I. future in which humans are replaced by robots or we just upload into Matrix like simulations seems more likely than any straight continuation of biological humans. And that's just on the utopian scale, whereas most futurism these days is apocalyptic.

As such, Trek's relevance today is more as science-fantasy vs. fact. I know I'm probably in the minority on this opinion within Trek fans, but that's how I feel about it.

Trek is retro-futurism at best. Doesn't make it not worth watching, but probably no longer provides any sort of accurate prediction of where we're headed.
Maybe instead of a Eugenics wars.... a future Star Trek Series could look back on an AI war... where human experimentation with artificial intelligence went off the rails resulting in the banning of research into AI...
 
I have the same reaction when people want to call something "Star Trek" and then want to see something that isn't.

Funny, because I'm an old Star Trek fan (saw my first episode on NBC in 1969 - I was 6 years old) - and after watching the Star Trek: The Next Generation pilot "Encounter at Farpoint" in October 1987 (at a viewing party on my large projection TV with a number of friends who were also Star Trek fans from the TOS era - our reaction was:

Well, I guess Gene Roddenberry IS old. What he retconned TNG into WASN'T 'Star Trek' to us.

That said, I and others kept watching hoping we'd see something we liked; and around TNG's third season I felt the show had found a voice; and it had it's fans that considered it 'Star Trek'; but to this day, I still don't feel TNG was like the original Star Trek (1966-1969) which I love still, but it had some things I eventually ended up accepting.

In the end, to be successful, any show needs to update itself to fit into the era it's being produced in. If they create the new Star Trek series in an exact mold of the TOS OR TNG eras; it wouldn't attract new fans.
 
One of the things that makes Star Trek as a whole relevant to this day is that individual isolated episodes cover futurism that better reflects where we're headed.

For instance, there are a fair share of A.I./android episodes. The best is probably "What Little Girls Are Made Of" covers the issue of transferring consciousness to an android similar to today's "singularity" discussion. Also, there are a fair share of episodes where other species have advanced to the point where they outgrow physical forms. It's just that they become these energy clouds rather than androids or programs running inside fixed computers. And then you have Data, of course. They even covered overpopulation (clumsily) in The Mark of Gideon.

Holodecks probably come closest to describing how human society is changing (in the developed world at least). Note how much time people spend staring into screens, now think of the push for VR, and you can kind of see the trend-lines veering into increasingly immersive escapism. I think if holodecks were real it would be very difficult to resist the idea of spending all your time in them, especially if you no longer had to have a job or earn money. A holodeck is the ultimate RPG.

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Hey I get that we want to gossip - but mods, um this is a thread about Axanar,no? Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying the drift - very much so, should we stay on topic? Just a question not a command. Loving all the comments
 
No one will ever take that bet. We bitch and moan about the things we like.

We definitely pay closer attention to the things we like and most of us seem to be more aware of the flaws in those things.
 
Hey I get that we want to gossip - but mods, um this is a thread about Axanar,no? Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying the drift - very much so, should we stay on topic? Just a question not a command. Loving all the comments

Don't you think it's sorta rude to join a forum which has its long standing culture and ways of behaving and ask a mod to step in because you want you it to behave another way?
 
Hey I get that we want to gossip - but mods, um this is a thread about Axanar,no? Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying the drift - very much so, should we stay on topic? Just a question not a command. Loving all the comments
New here, aren't you?
 
CBS knows the trekkies will watch - they'll all watch. Ninety-percent of the hardcore Trek fans in the country watched Enterprise every week on UPN until the bitter end, claimed they didn't and then bitched about the show.

CBS wants new viewers, and if they don't get them in significant numbers they'll have no trouble pulling the plug on this thing.

And none of this should be being discussed in this topic.
They got new viewers thanks to the new movies, the show will try to keep them...
 
Don't you think it's sorta rude to join a forum which has its long standing culture and ways of behaving and ask a mod to step in because you want you it to behave another way?
I got the impression Admiral Cain was someone who has spent time in a forum where it's a big no-no to wander from the topic. I've seen scolding for that various places and it always makes me want to leave. When I was moderator of a forum, people would sometimes complain about being off-topic and I'd shush those ones. Admiral Cain, the discussion will go where it goes. :D
 
I got the impression Admiral Cain was someone who has spent time in a forum where it's a big no-no to wander from the topic. I've seen scolding for that various places and it always makes me want to leave. When I was moderator of a forum, people would sometimes complain about being off-topic and I'd shush those ones. Admiral Cain, the discussion will go where it goes. :D
That's fine, but it seems like every topic ends up being about the same two or three subjects. :/
 
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