CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Richard Baker, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. jespah

    jespah Commodore Moderator

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    We use the Bat Persuader 9000(TM) around here (an old tennis racket).

    But my husband does the bat persuading, @Sgt_G . Me, I scream like Hoshi and hide under my desk.
     
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  2. 137th Gebirg

    137th Gebirg Vice Admiral Premium Member

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    That's okay - not everyone is cut out to be the bat slayer of their tribe. :)
     
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  3. tharpdevenport

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    Speaking of bats, I saw something cool at two local Wal-Mart's a few weeks ago during the nights:

    Bats flying around light polls, catching moths and bugs flying around them. I covered a light with a hand and could see as many as ten flying in the semi-dark sky above.
     
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  4. Tom

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  5. Tom

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    BTW, Congrats Jespah! nice to see you modding again. :)
     
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  6. Sgt_G

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    We used to have a nest of a couple dozen bats living in our attic. One of them found a hole where a vent pipe went up thru the closet ceiling. Nothing like waking up at 4-AM with a bat doing laps around your bedroom. Freaked out the cats.
     
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  7. jespah

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    Thanks @Tom !

    I really don't want to hurt the critters. I just don't want them as tenants.

    Then again I screamed big time when we ended up with a squirrel in the house.
     
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  8. Sean_McCormick

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    Essentially, bitcoin-mining in itself is legal and above the board. The mining entity gets paid for doing computations to support the bitcoin infrastructure. The shady part would be using other peoples computers without consent - and even with consent it feels still problematic since to most people it's absolutely not clear what they agree to. The problem here is, that it is not cost effective to do in most parts of the western world but since the costs are in the end hidden in the energy bill most people will not understand how much they are paying.
    I have been exposed to this problem in connection with another site, that did a trial run of doing this to replace the failing advertising in offsetting site costs. There another user actually evaluated his particular situation and came away with an 1:10 ratio for mined value vs energy cost.
     
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  9. muCephi

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    To add to the above, cryptocoins have various levels of legality as tender depending on the country. They have various taxing interpretations. They are under varying levels of financial regulation wrt/ activities like running currency trading sites where you could make futures orders or trade etherium for bitcoin or the like. One interpretation is to see them a bit like commodities futures trading, where the commodity is Dorothy Returns to Kansas someday (coin becomes legal currency in major markets).

    As far as I know it is not illegal most places to run a miner, either by yourself or in a collective (it takes a lot of processing to get to a 'coin' payback, so joining a pool means faster results and you split the coin). Once you have a coin or fraction thereof, then turning it into cash may be hard or easy depending where you are. A lot of people are just sitting on what they have accumulated. And with good reason. Bitcoin a few years ago dropped to 250. Now its around 5k$. Early bitcoin mining was easier and so some people are sitting on hoards.

    As mentioned, the amount of power (kilowatt-hours consumed by the computer) required to generate a coin of one or another sort can easily exceed the value of the coin. There are calculators online that can tell you given how good your mining software and hardware is, and what your local power cost is. Basically in the USA its mighty tough to break even if you get in late on a coin, and you do need to throw a couple thousand into a computer (multiple graphics cards) to really have decent processing power to be a penny-ante player.

    You can work the curve by getting in on early moments of a new coin, or major crashes of a coin, and then riding it back up. On the downside of this, most of the fluctuation in coin prices is driven by speculation in Asia, so good luck with that.

    The generally agreed intrinsic material (as opposed to ideological) value plain cryptocoins have, as far as I can see, is the speculation that someday they will be declared to be legal currency in major countries, and thereafter they might be somewhat immune to currency shocks since there in theory limited numbers of coins in some coin types. Some folks still hope coins of various sorts can be totally independent currencies.

    Bitcoin and etherium price fluctuations have earned some folks millions they have been able to cash out, so I suppose that is real. But its the wild west, as in if someone sticks you up, ain't no sheriff gonna save you. Immune to shocks? If during a "shock" the net is up and coin activity is not shut down politically or technically, maybe.
     
  10. muCephi

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    So interesting off-topic, bat-coins. (Sure someone go and create them, there are a billion types, why not that).

    Still no blowback on the target practice posting anywhere? Don't see anything on the OWC press releases yet.
     
  11. Krandor

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    Owc said he has freedom of speech even if they disagree and willl keep supporting him.
     
  12. JD

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    Oh yeah, we have tons of them around here and you can find them around light poles almost every night.
     
  13. BeatleJWOL

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    Where did you see that? All I can find are the Twitter replies stating "This matter is being handled and we apologize for this behavior. Thank you for bringing this to our attention."
     
  14. Sgt_G

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    OWC?? What's that?
     
  15. BeatleJWOL

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    From May:
    https://blog.macsales.com/40978-owc-announces-sponsorship-of-film-production-company-studio
     
  16. captainkirk

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    Is there a Guiness record for the most different names a studio has had without actually making a single movie?
     
  17. MikeH92467

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    Most different names and spending the most money without making a movie?
     
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    He does like "worx".
     
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    Don't give him any ideas or it will be ZombieWorx by morning.
    Can I have a timestamp on this?
     
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