CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Richard Baker, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. Sean_McCormick

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    Those films are so common, you can call those films a separate subgenre.
    There is or was an annual contest just for lightsaber duel films (run by the fanfilm community).
     
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  3. Sgt_G

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    LOL!! @ 1:22 "....when Axanar was a hot property...." Not sure about your slang down-under, but up here "hot" can mean "very popular", or it can mean "stolen".
     
  4. Nerys Myk

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    So the latter, then?
     
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    One could argue "Both" to be fair.
     
  6. KirkusOveractus

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    This may have been discussed here already, but how is it that Peters is still pushing to do his movie when he was sued to stop, and I'm imagining part of the agreement was to not do the movie?
     
  7. Sgt_G

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    That's the $64,000 question, or rather the 1.3 million dollar question, isn't it? Allegedly, his settlement with CBS allows him to follow the Guidelines and make two 15-minute short films. But can he actually restrain himself to such limitations??
     
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  8. KirkusOveractus

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    He's still having the costumes made, work is going on the sets, he's showing up at conventions promoting the movie (to the point of people who were to be in it asking to have their photos taken off the project or have what they shot taken out or not shown!)

    Shows he's either delusional, stupid or both. Anyone with a conscience would have stopped with their movie. I know a lawsuit would scare me slightly!
     
  9. Sgt_G

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    Me, too. But neither of us was "trained as a lawyer".
     
  10. KirkusOveractus

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    I was. I'm a paralegal. Even with that, I'd know that a suit brought against me for something like this would tell me I've crossed a line and not do that again!

    When I started my Buddy Holly tribute show, I went to his Estate and the copyright holders of the music to get everything in line so I wouldn't get slapped with a lawsuit or court order. But I guess that's what you do when you're smart and do a fan endeavor using your own money!
     
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  11. 137th Gebirg

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    Is all that still really going on (costumes, sets, etc.)? I haven't seen much of anything public come out of AP's efforts outside the ubiquitous solicitations to fund...something, and the recent Dragon*Con goat-rope (which was, in reality, another money-grab shill under the pretense of a "fan club").

    Even if, by some miracle, he does get enough money to produce his two films, I can't think of anyone who will work with him, either in front of or behind the camera. IIRC, AP has alienated Tobias Richter, who was his (enormously talented) CG guy. Tony Todd has publicly denounced the project, Richard Hatch has passed, and I don't recall hearing if any of the other actors attached to the project vociferously expressed their interest in continuing and supporting it.

    So yeah, I really don't know why he's still bothering. Damn near literally all the bridges have been burned to ash. It's sad, really...

    And I'm still waiting for my fucking patch! Why don't they just send me one of the ones they were trying to hock at Dragon*Con? :mad:
     
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  12. KirkusOveractus

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    With Richard Hatch, can Peters do an Ed Wood and hire another actor to play him, but hide his face with a cape?
     
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    It's going to take more than a cape to hide Peters face, brick wall maybe.
     
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  14. 137th Gebirg

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    I suppose he could. But again, I have no idea who would actually work for/with him on this any more. Who does he have left but non-professional volunteers. One of the C/P guidelines, IIRC, is that actors that have already been associated with the licensed Star Trek franchise are no longer allowed to work on fan films. Basically, it has to be all fan run, no professionals.
     
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  15. King Daniel Beyond

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    Except... he's not actually going to use that bridge set in the Axanar shorts. Or film in their new warehouse. He's said he's filming in LA on greenscreens like Prelude.

    I suspect the Ares bridge set is to launch a knock-off of the TOS set tour. Why else would it exist?
     
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    Is he explicitly promoting a "movie", or just his imagined territory in the Trek world, "Axanar", regardless what form the work takes?

    I imagine if there is any crossing of the settlement boundaries there is also calculation that it won't in each bit be enough for the studios to gear up and go back to court.

    So far as far as guideline/settlement violations there's:

    - "no crowdsourcing Axanar's fan films" settlement violation by crowdsourcing for the studio "not the Axanar segments", then letting the donors "vote" after the crowdsourcing is completed to apply the funds to the segments by using the money on relocation of the fan film sets.

    - "no former Trek professionals involved in the fan film" guidelines violation by displaying their likenesses as promotional content for the "club" "not promoting, only being enthusiastic about" the fan film segments

    others?
     
  17. BillJ

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    He doesn't have enough money for postage. :lol:
     
  18. Noname Given

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    Well, he already has to replace Tony Todd's character (as Todd vocally quit - a fact Peters seems loathe to state or acknowledge when shilling for more fan funding); so i don't think replacing someone who unfortunately passed on is much of an issue for him.
     
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  19. King Daniel Beyond

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    As per settlement terms, the Prelude cast may return and RMB can direct.
     
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  20. Csalem

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    Costumes are being made according to the post on Axanar blogin July:
    http://www.axanarproductions.com/production-update-july-27-2017-costumes/

    In fact the costumes are now determining the timeline of when the two films will be made according to that post.
     
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