CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by Richard Baker, Dec 30, 2015.

  1. jespah

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    Note the operant word there: legit.
     
  2. Sgt_G

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    He threw every other fan-film production company under the bus. Could be one of them getting even???
     
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    Axamonitor just reports on the bus throwing; it was Axanar that caused the trouble.

    Two months in a row Axamonitor has been the victim of bandwidth theft now. However, since Carlos has stated he believes it to just be "scraping" by a non-Axanar third party, I'll go along with that for now.
     
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    My bad. I read it as Axanar (not Axamonitor) was under attack. Wishful think, perhaps.
     
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    But...but...if everything Lord Alec says about the "haterz" is true, how could Axanar NOT be under constant ISP attacks?

    Does that mean he could be...full of shit wrong????

    :rommie:
     
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    I made a negative post on my personal site about Axanar. My site disappeared in similar ways. So I have my theory there - but @carlosp knows to only state such things is he has evidence of wrongdoing. If an assumption was made, and then made public, they'd go into another meltdown (not that they need an excuse)
     
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    Dear Lord...will this nonsense never end?
     
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    Actually, I thought that was fairly reasonable myself.
     
  11. JD

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    So is the next episode of Continues not one that was already in pre/production when the guidelines came down? I know they said people who had already started work on a film/episode would be allowed to finish it as long as they stopped after that.
     
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    Just thought I'd say (not having read 1546 previous pages here) that I really liked Prelude to Axanar, and was actually angry at CBS and Paramount's attempts to block this or other fan made projects. Anyway, I hope Axanar will eventually be made.
     
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    That implies he's capable of feeling either emotion or self-reflection.
     
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    Hope springs eternal.
    (It won't get made)
     
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  17. MikeH92467

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    Go back over the previous pages and you may come to decide that your anger is misplaced.
     
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    What do you mean by "Not a comedy writer"? That was my 1st chuckle of the week.
     
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    Sounds like a lot more work than you telling me why, if you're so sure my anger is misplaced, not that I'd insist you take that time. But if I'm wrong, and CBS and/or Paramount aren't hypocritically and selectively applying their hastily concocted and seemingly draconian guidelines for fan fiction, I'm not sure it would change my opinion that Prelude To Axanar was pretty damn good, and preventing the Axanar project, or other Trek fan fiction from going forward unhindered, is a disservice to Trek fans everywhere, and would only likely serve to attenuate future fan growth and perhaps diminish the regular cross section of movie goers who love the genre, and thereby lessen the number of available Trek fans, old and new, which could only tend to decrease their box office receipts. Conversely, encouraging fan fiction, or at least leaving it alone, would likely grow the fan base and increase their own returns - Herbert.
     
  20. MikeH92467

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    I'm not interested in changing your opinion about Prelude. In fact , I share it and was hoping for a really good feature. What I feel is misplaced is your anger at those "draconian" guidelines. The CBS guidelines are far more lenient than the law allows, which is total shutdown of anything that infringes on IP. Copyright protections give copyright holders a guarantee that they will be the only ones that profit off their property. The law does not require copyrights to be vigorously or uniformly enforced. When a production group is cooperative and pro-active in making it obvious that they are using any money they have on the production and not lining their pockets it's easier to look the other way. When a group claims some sort of right to use an IP as "theirs" by right of fandom and repeatedly calls itself an "independent" production, then tries to use funds from commercial fund-raising sites to start up a profit-making venture it's going to be looked at differently.