CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[RedForman]

Not quite sure..............Terry provided a bit of context in the thread (on Axamonitor's FB group)

"Lee created some art while he was with Axanar and under a Work-for-Hire agreement which granted all rights to Axanar Productions in perpetuity for the sum of $1.00us. That art was released to the public at some point by its owner. A journalist has used an image of that art, in context, for a legitimate journalism piece. The original artist, who no longer owns the art, is not happy and intends (or already has) filed a DMCA takedown request on art that he does not own. The owner, Axanar Productions, is bound by a recent settlement agreement which prohibits them from registering or attempting to enforce copyright or trademark for their works. Thus, the image cannot be protected even if there was cause and standing to attempt to do so, as the attempt could violate said settlement.

Am I understanding this nonsense correctly? If so, there's nothing to see here... at all... and even if there was, is Lee going to fly to Washington to sue Carlos, which would be required to counter a DMCA counter-notification? Of course not, which makes this entire bitch fit pointless."

 

[Search4]

One might argue most of the threads on the BBS and certainly about Axanar are pointless but - we keep on!

 

[RedForman]

Ehh - if anything, it demonstrates LFIM's unceasing quest to deflect, deflect, deflect............

 

[Woulfe]

Act 1 : Scene 5 : Int : Bridge : Science Station
AP ( shouting ) : Deflector Screens At Maximum
( motions at main view screen as he shouts )

 

[JD]

Oh my god, this shit is still going on? I thought all of this was resolved months ago.

 

[muCephi]

"Status report, Mr. Spock!"

"Sir, both nacelles are separated from the ship. Engineering reports dilithium crystals are all fully drained. Environmental staff reports all areas of the ship except the bridge are widely in vacuum with irreprarable hull breaches, survivors in scattered sealed rooms with limited air. Photon torpedos available zero, phaser power zero. Subspace jammed. Seventeen Klingon battle cruisers are armed and in firing range. Opposing Admiral demands to know why you are violating the Chancellors' personal intervention terms sparing your life and the lives of your remaining crew in recognition of the 50th."

Act 1 : Scene 5 : Int : Bridge : Science Station
AP ( shouting ) : Deflector Screens At Maximum
( motions at main view screen as he shouts )

 

[Noname Given]

Apparently LFIM is trying to get folks to sue Carlos now..........?? (Kind of ironic given that he made 'Lee' sign over to graphic design work he did)

IDK - my favorite of Alec's latest rants is this one:

Where he again attempts to paint Christian Gossett (who has a real, and ongoing professional career) as "not a real film-maker" and that somehow Rob Burnett 'bailed him out.' (Not to mention that suddenly the 2+ minute Vulcan scene is the "most impressive pieces of fan film making' now. Funny how during the Trial, they tried to make the scene not exist. Now it's the one of the best things ever made in Star Trek fan films.

Spin...Spin...Spin...

 

[muCephi]

IDK - my favorite of Alec's latest rants is this one:

Where he again attempts to paint Christian Gossett (who has a real, and ongoing professional career) as "not a real film-maker" and that somehow Rob Burnett 'bailed him out.' (Not to mention that suddenly the 2+ minute Vulcan scene is the "most impressive pieces of fan film making' now. Funny how during the Trial, they tried to make the scene not exist. Now it's the one of the best things ever made in Star Trek fan films.

Spin...Spin...Spin...

Its just static CGI backdrop. Did Alec or RMB "know" how to get it done? Only the techies usually "know" how to get it done. The artiste executives of Axanar should not be claiming that *they* know anything professionally substantial and distinguishing in this case unless they personally did the technical work. Weaving in the background to the talking heads by querying out various backdrop angles may be editing, but it doesnt seem like something to be claiming vast professional superiority for having done.

And if they DO want to claim full credit, they get to claim full credit for personally inserting the many admitted excessive copyright law violations present in the scene, to which they admitted in the settlement. That is not a badge of merit.

A static derivative CGI backdrop does not a "better than anything else" scene make.

 

[Squiggy]

The only time that background moved is when someone bumped the camera and Rob "Spielberg" Burnett was all "Meh, that's good enough for me!"

 

[muCephi]

The only time that background moved is when someone bumped the camera and Rob "Spielberg" Burnett was all "Meh, that's good enough for me!"

yea, those kinetic wind sculptures (shapes balanced on axis points) should at least have been spinning

 

[Sgt_G]

That shot was "intricate"??? Seems pretty straight-forward and simple to me. I haven't done serious video since 1979-81 when I worked for the public library's community service channel. I think I could have done that scene with the equipment we had back then.

 

[fireproof78]

IDK - my favorite of Alec's latest rants is this one:

Where he again attempts to paint Christian Gossett (who has a real, and ongoing professional career) as "not a real film-maker" and that somehow Rob Burnett 'bailed him out.' (Not to mention that suddenly the 2+ minute Vulcan scene is the "most impressive pieces of fan film making' now. Funny how during the Trial, they tried to make the scene not exist. Now it's the one of the best things ever made in Star Trek fan films.

Spin...Spin...Spin...

Well, it's as good an excuse as any to use this gif:

 

[JD]

I was really hoping once the settlement happened Alec would just disappear, never to be heard from again. Sounds like I was very wrong.

 

[Woulfe]

Every-time you think AP is done w/ his "Spinning" he comes back for more...
Once again, apologies to The Byrds ...

To everything... Spin Spin Spin...
There is a season... Spin Spin Spin...

 

[fireproof78]

I was really hoping once the settlement happened Alec would just disappear, never to be heard from again. Sounds like I was very wrong.

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[muCephi]

I was really hoping once the settlement happened Alec would just disappear, never to be heard from again. Sounds like I was very wrong.

According to Alec by his oft repeated own words, everyone on earth is a loser who obviously has never achieved anything if they haven't done exactly what he did the exactly the way he did it, or hasn't done something he wants to bless for his own reasons (which will change tomorrow). Atop of which not a single bit of misconduct can ever be admitted. Its all childishly emotional, not rational. I think this is the answer to your implied question.

Wrt/ the moment, he can in his walled garden forums just deny and rewrite the meaning of the court case over and over. But he can't erase the public proof of shady conduct contained in detailed blow by blow documentation on Axamonitor. So he has to tar it somehow. Find something that he can use as his "yes but none of that can be true because see I can dispute use of a graphic as copyright violation, so all of Axamonitor is hypocritical and therefore proven to be a vendetta". And then there's the use of legal process as a strong arm tactic atop a weak argument.

Again, deep and subtle kindergarten level emotional maneuvering. And no one has any validity if they see it any other way, because he says so.

Will he ever grow up and admit he did wrong? Beats me. Is he stopped from building an empire on Trek? I sure think so. All this claiming that he can "opensource the Axanar story to other fan films" and the like is just Wil E. Coyote running on air. The studios will remind him where he is.

 

[feek61]

IDK - my favorite of Alec's latest rants is this one:

Where he again attempts to paint Christian Gossett (who has a real, and ongoing professional career) as "not a real film-maker" and that somehow Rob Burnett 'bailed him out.' (Not to mention that suddenly the 2+ minute Vulcan scene is the "most impressive pieces of fan film making' now. Funny how during the Trial, they tried to make the scene not exist. Now it's the one of the best things ever made in Star Trek fan films.

Spin...Spin...Spin...

"One of the most impressive pieces of fan film making ever shot . . . ."
Really? I guess when all you have is ONE scene (not a complete film or even more than one scene that was not even going to BE in the film) you don't have much else to try to use for your spin. Just pathetic!

 

[trynda1701]

IDK - my favorite of Alec's latest rants is this one:

Re the message...

1) Sheesh!

2) To misquote and mangle another franchise ..."The bravado is strong with this one"!

 

[137th Gebirg]

Yes, it seems like his default state now is to blindly lash out in random directions, engaging in explosive verbal flatulence right out of the gate without any regard to how he may be perceived by potential donors that he so desperately craves. He is one of the most extreme self-immolating individuals I've seen in a very long time. I seriously wonder if the guy is in need of professional help.

 

[JD]

He kind of reminds me of a certain other public figure.....
So has he actually done anything of note in the last few months, other than just rant and insult people?