CBS Digital needs more time to produce promised quality!
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Given that the CBS folks seem willing to let them go back and redo stuff if needed (in addition to fixing the Mirror Mirror error; they said they were going to redo some shots of episodes already completed with their new 1701 model (that's less render time intesive); as well as fix some of their early attempts that they now consider akward).
Again, nothing happens in a vaccum; but understand that if they just shoveled money into; and then waited until all 79 episodes were ready; that would be a long time to wait for any return on investment - this they show them as they complete them and are given a timetable.
Again, the fact CBS IS willing to pony up any cash for this shows that they belive TOS is and will be a marketable commodity for years to come. I think that's a good thing, personally.
Again, nothing happens in a vaccum; but understand that if they just shoveled money into; and then waited until all 79 episodes were ready; that would be a long time to wait for any return on investment - this they show them as they complete them and are given a timetable.
Again, the fact CBS IS willing to pony up any cash for this shows that they belive TOS is and will be a marketable commodity for years to come. I think that's a good thing, personally.
Who said anything about waiting for all 79 episodes to be finished? That would be silly. All they would really have needed, was a four episode lead. Get four episodes down...iron out as many kinks as possible, but make those first four episodes perfect before looking at the others. It's like anything, you need a solid foundation to build off of...and so far, these guys have no choice to be stumble around blind...and hope to hell the thing holds up. It's no way to work.
And, you're basing that statement on...what, exactly?
The obvious fact that they've been learning as they go from the moment the project started. They had to wait around for a new model to be produced for them, when a period of pre-prep should have revealed this before production even started. A lot of their lighting is extremely poorly executed. They're flying by the seat of their pants...they've said as much themselves.
Learning as they go? Not putting a finished, polished product on screen from the get go? Do any of you fanboys/apologists realise the leeway you're giving them?
Time to correct mistakes? Re-finish the work? C'mon, that's amateur hour.
The one thing they have going for them is a host of knowledgeable fans who could form a focus group to see the new work. All they really had to do was get some well-known Star Trek critics or a beta group of 12-20 fans to critique the work before release.
This was done as an investment. Spend money to make money. They didn't throw money at this altruistically. So, they threw money and got substandard garbage. Redoing the ship, the cornerstone of the effects? Why?
Because they did a shit job first time through, and any focus group could have told them that.
CBS amateur hour.
You know, I work on a ridiculous, impossible schedule. So do my coworkers. But we turn out a finished, satisfactory product that doesn't get ripped apart by the very fan base it's made for.
Time to correct mistakes? Re-finish the work? C'mon, that's amateur hour.
The one thing they have going for them is a host of knowledgeable fans who could form a focus group to see the new work. All they really had to do was get some well-known Star Trek critics or a beta group of 12-20 fans to critique the work before release.
This was done as an investment. Spend money to make money. They didn't throw money at this altruistically. So, they threw money and got substandard garbage. Redoing the ship, the cornerstone of the effects? Why?
Because they did a shit job first time through, and any focus group could have told them that.
CBS amateur hour.
You know, I work on a ridiculous, impossible schedule. So do my coworkers. But we turn out a finished, satisfactory product that doesn't get ripped apart by the very fan base it's made for.
That's because you don't post it here.
Corran Horn said:
That's because you don't post it here.
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Why should it be a show? T.V. shows aren't the only jobs with tight schedules. I'm a graphic designer. My deadline got pulled out from under me last week, so I had to work 36 hours straight to meet it and maintain the quality...and I did just that. All the clients were more than pleased, and had no idea that I worked under such pressure...nor did I tell my clients that I was under a tight schedule to excuse any poor workmanship...mainly, because there wasn't any. No offense to CBS digital, but the excuses of..'tight schedule...we needed a new model...blah blah', really shouldn't be public knowledge. It's highly unprofessional, and doesn't give me a whole lot of faith in their abilities. Who would want to hire a company that can't do current standard quality work under pressure?
I was merely trying to suggest that this person may not work in television and therefore may not understand the realities of the world that he presumes to criticize. Nevertheless, you're absolutely correct about a true professional not making excuses.
EDIT: I'm not suggesting that you have to work in television in order to be qualified to criticize television. But when evaluating someone's opinion, it's useful to ask if that person knows what he or she is talking about. In cases where I suspect that they may be criticizing out of ignorance, I tend to discount their opinions. But that's just my opinion.
EDIT: I'm not suggesting that you have to work in television in order to be qualified to criticize television. But when evaluating someone's opinion, it's useful to ask if that person knows what he or she is talking about. In cases where I suspect that they may be criticizing out of ignorance, I tend to discount their opinions. But that's just my opinion.
What specific changes would you like to see? Not defending CBS but what would you like to see done on the completed R-TOS episodes? Be Specific? James R. Kirk WNMHGBF?
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