Agreed. once they start CBSAA in canada they will likely let any existing streaming deals for CBS shows expire. So it may not happen immediately (depends on how long the deal is for) but will likely happen eventually.
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Agreed. once they start CBSAA in canada they will likely let any existing streaming deals for CBS shows expire. So it may not happen immediately (depends on how long the deal is for) but will likely happen eventually.
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if you listen to Star Trek fans, every new iteration from TAS on was:
- Missing something...
- Not real™ Star Trek...
- Will certainly fail;, and be forgotten...
So yeah, new Star Trek iteration - same Star Trek fan cycle.
That's exactly what's going to happen.
I worked in the Canadian TV business from 2000 to 2014 so I have a bit of knowledge of how these things work and trust me I'm sure Canadian broadcasters are worried about what this could mean going forward. TV Networks like CTV and Global have built their entire business models on purchasing broadcast/digital rights to air American shows in Canada.
With CBS offerings its streaming services in Canada, it's likely they will stop granting digital rights to Canadian broadcasters and let current agreements expire. So American shows will likely still be aired on Canadian networks, but those networks will no longer be able to offer them on digital platforms.
What I'm trying to find out is how long Bell's deal with CBS is regarding Discovery, if it's a one year deal then any second seasons will likely only be available on CBSAA. My hunch is that it was a one season deal since CBS has not committed to Discovery beyond one year.
Also I wonder if CBS will have to produce it's own Canadian Content for CBSAA as the CRTC is fairly strict about this. Netflix has avoid regulation because I think about 5% of its offerings are Canadian.
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CBS didn't just not decide to expand CBSAA into Canada. They had to be thinking about it for a while and if so I don't think they would have made anything longer then a 1 year deal for discovery. Even if the canada move hadn't been greenlit, if it was being throught about (and I'm sure it was) then you keep you options open.
CBS didn't just not decide to expand CBSAA into Canada. They had to be thinking about it for a while and if so I don't think they would have made anything longer then a 1 year deal for discovery. Even if the canada move hadn't been greenlit, if it was being throught about (and I'm sure it was) then you keep you options open.
I'm no TV/streaming expert but I wonder if its possible that Bell Media will eventually just lose exclusive rights to Discovery and the show will be available on their services and on CBSAA Canada as well. The old Trek shows for example (TOS, TNG, ENT, DS9, VGY) are on Space/CraveTV but they are also on Netflix Canada which means Bell Media already has deals with Star Trek properties that are not exclusive. .
What is interesting, is all the series were on Netflix before Crave came along, then vanished, then Crave came along with them, but then they came back to Netflix a few months later.
The ironic thing is, Discovery was shot in Canada. I wonder if that will count, but I rather doubt it. The rules haven't always been consistent, but they've used the "shot in" as an excuse in the past with some other shows.
You may be on to something. I bet a lot of the production staff is local to Toronto. And I'm guessing the production is getting a tax credit too from the provincial and federal governments. Even Game of Thrones does often because some of the direwolf stuff is/was shot in Alberta.
Yes this would be my guess too.
Bell has the exclusive rights to Discovery in Canada but not the rest of the Trek library. The question is how long is Bell's deal with CBS valid for? Like others have said, it's very unlikely CBS just decided overnight to expand into the Canadian market. This is likely why Netflix got all the international rights to Discovery except for Canada. This makes me think that Bell's rights are only good for one season.
Once the deal with CBS expires, all bets are off with Bell retaining any rights to Discovery. My hunch is come season 2, Discovery will only be available on CBSAA or perhaps Bell will retain broadcast rights but CBSAA will be the only source to stream the show after it airs.
Yeah, definitely. That might just be enough for them to claim as Canadian content. Basically, another way of looking at it is, maybe CBS in going forward with a Canadian version of CBS-AA, are hinging on that in particular, so they're able to point at their flagship and say, "See? Canadian content", which would basically be opening the door for them to operate here. It's kind of ingenious, really.
The CRTC is very strict about what it considers Canadian content. I'll give an example, Stargate SG-1 was filmed in Canada, had a Canadian crew, Canadian actors etc. but because it was produced for American TV it was not considered a Canadian production. Discovery is considered the same, an American production that happens to be filmed in Canada. A few years ago Netflix faced a showdown with the CRTC about Canadian content, they averted being heavily clamped down on by purchasing the digital rights to a huge swath of CBC productions so they could claim the offered true Canadian content. I suspect CBSAA might do the same thing.
and really with a streaming service that is even easier to do. As you said just license some stuff you an put on there. It isn't like a linear TV channel where you only have so many hours of program time available.
Yeah, I knew that much. And there are tons more examples, but SG-1 one is a really good example. I just figured that maybe CBS would try to claim so anyway to try to get around it.
I don't know what cable packages other telecoms offer, but in my region, Space is not part of basic cable. It's bundled with several other channels - maybe one of which I might watch in a blue moon - and there's no option to subscribe separately. So I'd be paying $$ for one channel I want and several others I don't want. If I'm already not subscribing to Space for Doctor Who, why would I subscribe to it for yet another variety of nuTrek?Correct me if I'm wrong, but DSC will be shown on cable TV channels in Canada, amirite? So why would CBS-AA be important to Canadian DSC fans?
That said, I'm going to have to think all this over. Netflix Canada is raising its monthly rates... again.
Space is not part of any basic package for Rogers or Bell. Rogers you either have to buy it part of a package or pay $7.00 a month for it on its own.
Bell's decision to air DSC on Space before posting it on its streaming site, Crave, is a clear ploy to try and get Trek fans to stop cutting the cord. The major players in Canada, Rogers and Bell, are doing everything they can to tide off the move towards streamed TV rather then broadcast TV. Rogers streaming services, Shomi, was a disaster, and Crave it in trouble too and are just not able to compete with Netflix.
My hunch is that come season two of DSC, it will only be available in Canada on CBSAA. This is why Canada is the only international market in which the show isn't being carried by Netflix.
I could be wrong, but I think Bell has set up their 'build a bundle' program now, so you can get Space outside of a pre-built package.
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