No, the god awful class of ship was used to death also, I was sick looking at it n Dominion battles...yeh yeh it had a diffrent class name, but was basically the same ship.
It was even Siskos old ship, overused, like the Oberth Class
Cause and Effect
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No, the god awful class of ship was used to death also, I was sick looking at it n Dominion battles...yeh yeh it had a diffrent class name, but was basically the same ship.
It was even Siskos old ship, overused, like the Oberth Class
Timo:
Yes, that book was written by Diane Carey. With the exception of Dreadnaught -- and even that book wasn't that good -- everything else ST she's written is a mess. She is my least favorite ST author, right down there with the dreaded Myrna Culbreath and Sondra Marshak.
I also like this ep. It's one of the more daring uses of time travel in ST. And it was fun to see Kelsey Grammer in a ST uniform. Supposedly, Kirstie Alley was to have a cameo as Saavik and be Bateson's first officer.
Red Ranger
I don't see the TNG era Starfleet as "all getting along". I'm sure there are their rivalries and factions. The ENT-D had an unusually harmonious bridge crew for around 7 years there. Outside of that, I imagine Starfleet wasn't much less turbulent than years before. Though in Kirk's time, there was the active hostilities with both Klingons and Romulans, so TNG era was naturally more laid back, at least, until the Borg.
They didn't all get along that well.
Riker and Lavelle
Troi occasionally repremanding Riker
Geordi snapping at Guinan over Hugh
Everyone being annoyed at Westley
That was the fanbase, not the crew
I dunno, compared to what went on in DS9 and Voyager, I'd say TNG's personal conflicts were walks in the park. None of those examples had any long-lasting repercussions, whereas in DS9 nobody really trusted Garak and Quark, and Voyager had Torres holding grudges that evolved into more developed relationships, and a good chunk of the crew hated Janeway for the first season.
Heck, the Riker/Lavelle conflict was resolved in the same episode, and Troi Vs. Riker was more like flirting than reprimand. With TNG, everything went back to the status quo by the end of the episode.
That was the fanbase, not the crew
The crew was always screaming at him and telling him to shut up.
He was cute when he wasn't..talking
Oh, Beverly and Picard... but they were parental figures to him.That was the fanbase, not the crew
The crew was always screaming at him and telling him to shut up.
He was cute when he wasn't..talking
I also liked that episode, one of my favorites, but my question is why did the crew of the Bozeman not notice the different uniforms the the Enterprise crew had? Should'nt that have raised a flag with the Bozemans crew?
"Raised a flag"? Captain Bateson probably felt he was speaking with a lunatic or with a malevolent alien who wasn't very good at pretending to be a Starfleet officer. We have no indication he bought into any part of Picard's outrageous story.
If Bateson's ship had working visuals, he would see that the vessel he collided with was not the Enterprise that was operational in the Starfleet of his day, or indeed any recognizable Starfleet design. He would have no reason to trust Picard - yet no reason to start enumerating the reasons he distrusted Picard for, either. Why bother arguing with somebody so obviously off his rocker?
Timo Saloniemi
If Bateson's ship had working visuals, he would see that the vessel he collided with was not the Enterprise that was operational in the Starfleet of his day, or indeed any recognizable Starfleet design. He would have no reason to trust Picard - yet no reason to start enumerating the reasons he distrusted Picard for, either. Why bother arguing with somebody so obviously off his rocker?
Timo Saloniemi
Well, in the defense of Captain Frasier, the Enterprise D was obviously a starfleet design... the Federation time sync does tell him that Picard is being truthful about the day being in the distant future... And if Picard wanted to destroy Captain Frasier, he could have done so at his will. So, what is the other option, start firing on the a superior vessel that is coming at you in a friendly manner? Doesn't make sense!
Oh he didn't ALWAYS tell him to shut up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7RXzIKuc8&feature=related
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
I think "Cause and Effect" is one of the all-time-great Trek episodes, and is therefore somewhat underrated.
Why underrated? Because most people I know say they like or love it, I know I love it, yet somehow it often manages to miss out on great Trek (or even just great TNG) lists and rankings. It's like people forget about how awesome the episode is until they sit down and watch it again.
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