Casting sheet for imaginary Cage crew remake TV series

[Kane_Steel]

It would be a reboot canon if you changed the ethnicities of the original characters...


And we ALREADY have a reboot canon with Trek XI and Greenwood's Pike

Could be part of that same reboot canon. Look at Chekov's hair, and the fact that he's two years older now....

Of course, this would put our remake series on a ship aside from the Enterprise. Maybe the Constitution?

What's the point of having it on another ship that isn't the Enterprise?

This setup doesn't work with the reboot canon.

Plus it would require an older looking Pike based on Greenwood's.

And Greenwood's Pike was on Earth half the time commanding the academy cadets... it doesn't line up well with his timeline.



A Pike-based Enterprise series would need to be based in the PRIME Trek canon.

(And it would be too convoluted to start a third new canon for this....so it has to be Prime Trek)

 

[Kane_Steel]

Edward Speleers as Jose Tyler

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[Nerys Myk]

Well the actor was 100% white.

Even Roddenberry said he cast "all whites"

That's why its slightly confusing.


But I'd prefer the remake actor to have the same look as the Pilot dude.

I think its more important for the Actor to fit the part than look like the previous actor.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Sarah Lancaster as Number One.

YES.

 

[USS Triumphant]

Edward Speleers as Jose Tyler

You're really good at this business of matching looks. If that were all we were going off of, I like this choice, too. I even like the idea of working the star tattoo on his right wrist into the show as a very minor plot point. "My best friends and I all got them at the Academy, sir...."

But matching looks isn't all we need to do, here. Pike's crew was ALL WHITE. And a modern television channel/network would insist on a cross-section of demographics - not to mention that it is in keeping with the spirit of Trek that we have one. Jose probably needs to be latino/hispanic. Speleers' mother lives in Spain, but that's hardly the same thing.

Oh, and it has to be a different ship. The network would probably also insist on playing off of the popularity of the new movie, and obviously the ship being called Enterprise would be inconsistent. This would be Pike's command before his stint training at the academy. Downside - not Enterprise. Upside - we get to play with a new ship model, and add a whole new mythos to the Trek story.

 

[Mysterion]

Allyson Hannigan as Yeoman Colt.

 

[ChristopherPike]

A Pike-based Enterprise series would need to be based in the PRIME Trek canon.

(And it would be too convoluted to start a third new canon for this....so it has to be Prime Trek)

I tend to agree... and it's not as if a writer couldn't draw parallels to the new film. Much of DS9's greatness formed because people like Ira Steven Behr and Ronald D. Moore were critical of the way TNG did things.

I'd probably keep Christopher Pike closer to his anti-hero roots, less the front line hero Kirk is. To that end, Ray Liotta appeals to me because he can be both charming and yet do a 360 degree turn into being aggressive, capable of crossing a line. Greenwood was okay but isn't required to do much in the film, besides give Kirk the recruiting pitch, be a role model and become a sacrifical lamb. In the Prime Universe, they barely met because I imagine Pike's experiences would've put Kirk off Starfleet for life or at the very least, made him think twice.

I'd go the prequel route and maybe gloss over set/cast differences. Or at least set it with enough distance from The Cage and Where No Man to allow plausable explainations or fan theories to form. There are always ways to fudge such issues, as three distinctly different bridge sets in movies IV, V and VI proved. I make no secret of my dislike for unnecessary reboots, especially instances where the source material felt perfect for me. But if there's some way for both restorists and reinventists to be left to form different opinions, then that's a piece of art doing its job right.

 

[Stardate]

Pretty interesting actors and actresses being suggested(keep it up guys), some are excellent choices and fall close enough to the casting sheet but some are way off the mark.
Here are some input. Please try to control yourself in naming former or present Trek actors like Zachary Quinto, John Billingsley e.c.c. Let pitch someone new for these roles. Personally my favorite(other then mine) so far is Wilmer Valderrama & Rey Valentin as Jose, Lindze Leatherman as Colt and Sarah Lancaster & Lake Bell as Number One.

Mastro said: I can't really reconcile "Caucasian" with "human origin unknown." I'm seeing genre actress Gina Torres in the role, and I'm neither casting her because she's black, nor avoiding casting her because she's black. She fits everything but that Caucasian part.

Reason for the Caucasian part is that the actress(Majel) that played the part of Number One is a dark haired Caucasian women. and ,,the human origin,, part is that Number One nationality is unclear. Personally i would cast Number one as Caucasian Russian woman, honoring that the first women in space was Valentina Tereshkova. I think Sarah Lancaster and Lake Bell fit Number One profile better then Gina Torres or Sydney Tamiia Poitier. However i like Torres and Poitier but casting them as new characters is a better in my opinion.

Temis the Vorta said: Pike - Neal McDonough with dark hair

McDonough is a good actor but he is way too old for the part. He is 53 years old. Any other suggestion?.

Mysterion said: Allyson Hannigan as Yeoman Colt.

Same reason as McDonough. I like Allyson but she is born in 1974. Way too old for young yeoman Colt

 

[Maestro]

How about Rhona Mitra as Number One?

 

[The Badger]

^I likes the way you thinks!


And Alysson Hannigan as the ships chief engineer.

Plus, because I've got a fixation on her, Summer Glau as the kick @$$ security chief.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Edward Speleers as Jose Tyler

You're really good at this business of matching looks. If that were all we were going off of, I like this choice, too. I even like the idea of working the star tattoo on his right wrist into the show as a very minor plot point. "My best friends and I all got them at the Academy, sir...."

But matching looks isn't all we need to do, here. Pike's crew was ALL WHITE. And a modern television channel/network would insist on a cross-section of demographics - not to mention that it is in keeping with the spirit of Trek that we have one. Jose probably needs to be latino/hispanic. Speleers' mother lives in Spain, but that's hardly the same thing.

They could cast the other characters (not seen in The Cage) as minorities; maybe an Asian engineer and Black security officer.

Not even Abrams' Trek completely changed the look of the character; they even gave Pegg dark hair to match Scotty.

Oh, and it has to be a different ship. The network would probably also insist on playing off of the popularity of the new movie, and obviously the ship being called Enterprise would be inconsistent. This would be Pike's command before his stint training at the academy. Downside - not Enterprise. Upside - we get to play with a new ship model, and add a whole new mythos to the Trek story.

If that's the case, what's the point?

In the NuTrek verse, Pike is a different man, he's obviously been working at the Academy for years as well.

Why stick him and his entire Enterprise crew on ANOTHER starship in a different continuity?


I mean if TPTB are supposely tight about another Enterprise (with the movies happening) as you say; what makes you think they'll allow a Pike series either (or Spock for that matter)?

Greenwood says Admiral Pike is likely to continue in the next films.

 

[Kane_Steel]

I'd probably keep Christopher Pike closer to his anti-hero roots, less the front line hero Kirk is. To that end, Ray Liotta appeals to me because he can be both charming and yet do a 360 degree turn into being aggressive, capable of crossing a line.

I agree.

I prefer the badass Pike akin to Jeffrey Hunter's version. He was kinda like Bruce Wayne. I think that's definitely a type of Captain we haven't seen in a while.

But Ray Liotta? Maybe 10-15 years ago... not now

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He looks like Pike after the accident

 

[ChristopherPike]

He looks like Pike after the accident

Geeze Louise. I'm speechless. How long ago was the TV show "Smith" made? Couldn't have been that long ago and he looked pretty damned perfect in that. He must've had a damn good make up artist or been filmed entirely in long shot. The guy looks like he's having an allergic reaction right in front of me...

You know, I have no idea what the deal is with that photo. But there are better ones at IMDb even just last year. He seems to look much better on film, than at any of those red carpet events. It's very weird.

Way outside the "acceptable" age range I guess, like most actors I've always wanted to see in Star Trek... The facts likely don't stand up to scrutiny but it often feels like casting is getting ridiculously young, with those in their late 30's considered over the hill character actors.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Jose Tyler is hispanic?! No!


He looked like a wasp-y white dude to me!

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Please don't hotlink photos from sites without permission. Use imageshack or photobucket if you want to use image tags. Otherwise, just leave as a link, like I've changed them to.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Mastro said: I can't really reconcile "Caucasian" with "human origin unknown." I'm seeing genre actress Gina Torres in the role, and I'm neither casting her because she's black, nor avoiding casting her because she's black. She fits everything but that Caucasian part.

Reason for the Caucasian part is that the actress(Majel) that played the part of Number One is a dark haired Caucasian women. and ,,the human origin,, part is that Number One nationality is unclear. Personally i would cast Number one as Caucasian Russian woman, honoring that the first women in space was Valentina Tereshkova. I think Sarah Lancaster and Lake Bell fit Number One profile better then Gina Torres or Sydney Tamiia Poitier. However i like Torres and Poitier but casting them as new characters is a better in my opinion.

But is the character "caucasian"? Roddenberry describes the character as " slim and dark in a Nile Valley sort of way". Which in my mind gives one a lot of leeway in casting.

 

[Kane_Steel]

Hey sorry Mods about the hotlinking.

Reposting casting choices so far with imageshack links.

Anson Mount as Captain Christopher Pike

Sarah Lancaster as Number One

Edward Speleers as Jose Tyler

John Rubinstein as Doctor Phillip Boyce (Trek Alum)

I'm thinking about an Asian male for the Chief Engineer and an African American Male for Security Chief.

Still figuring out choices for Spock and Colt.

An alien COMM officer would be cool too.

 

[Skywalker]

I'm thinking about an Asian male for the Chief Engineer and an African American Male for Security Chief.

Still figuring out choices for Spock and Colt.

An alien COMM officer would be cool too.

I like all your casting choices, though I think either the Chief Engineer or the Security Chief should be female. Maybe the Security Chief. The only female one of those we've had was Tasha Yar, and she didn't last long.

 

[Kane_Steel]

We already have two female characters though. Number One and Colt.

Number One is the strong, commanding female.

Yeoman Colt is the girly, submissive female.


Both spectrums are covered.

 

[Skywalker]

But the male archetype is so complex that it needs five different characters to effectively explore it?

 

[Kane_Steel]

Yes it's true; at least for TOS, TNG, DS9 and Enterprise.

Voyager had three females; but that's mainly because one was the captain. And the third became an excuse for T+A by Season 4.

Go figure.