"carpenter street" ep
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I caught “Carpenter Street” the other on the Sci-Fi Channel & thought it was a pretty g
d episode.
CS reminded me of the console videogames Grand Theft Auto, The Getaway, & tad Medal of Honor. CS also had elements of Kirk's 20th Century adventures, DS9's “Past Tense”, & that V'Ger 1996 2-parter, title I forget now.
I thought it was great.
It'd be so cool to be able to play out this episode in a videogame. Loomis was the dude who played Luv
k & was in that horrendous abomination alien resurrection yes?
d episode.CS reminded me of the console videogames Grand Theft Auto, The Getaway, & tad Medal of Honor. CS also had elements of Kirk's 20th Century adventures, DS9's “Past Tense”, & that V'Ger 1996 2-parter, title I forget now.
I thought it was great.
It'd be so cool to be able to play out this episode in a videogame. Loomis was the dude who played Luv
k & was in that horrendous abomination alien resurrection yes?
It'd be so cool to be able to play out this episode in a videogame. Loomis was the dude who played Luv
Yeah, didn't quite get his name though but he has a talent for playing nervous wrecks and nuts.
He was in a VOY ep, as a crazed holographic "janitor" 
, in Saving Private Ryan as one of the glider pilots (FUBAR, he had to fly a dumb general and a jeep they dumped on him at the last minute), in a minor role in Independence Day as one of the scientists working with Dr-whatever-his-name was (Brent Spiner), as a psychic in a CSI ep (the one where Nick was stalked). He's rather like Brad Dourif (Piter De Vries in Dune, Wormtongue in LOTR, Suder in VOY, Brother Edward in B5, Dr Grediman in Alien 4), kinda "fixed" in a certain role.
As stated upthread, the actor's name is Leland Orser. Great talent. 
It'd be so cool to be able to play out this episode in a videogame. Loomis was the dude who played Luv
Yeah, didn't quite get his name though but he has a talent for playing nervous wrecks and nuts.
He's rather like Brad Dourif (Piter De Vries in Dune, Wormtongue in LOTR, Suder in VOY, Brother Edward in B5, Dr Grediman in Alien 4), kinda "fixed" in a certain role.
Leland Orser was also in the DS9 episode Sanctuary, as one of the Skree'ans. You're right that he usually plays nervous and/or mentally unstable characters. As soon as I saw him in a minor role in The Bone Collector I knew who the killer was.
If you want to see Brad Dourif in an unusually sympathetic, non-creepy role, he played the town doctor in Deadwood.
Mr Orser's inclination toward dark characters (much like Brad Dourif's) makes me wonder how interesting the insides of their heads must really be! Loved Dourif the in the VOY episodes as the Betazoid who wasn't telpathic! Loved this episode because it WAS in Detroit - doesn't get much pos spin - we'll take what we canget here in Michigan! Will concede certainly not the best episode . . .
It was a little creepy. But still a great character and performance.
Agree. One of the reasons, I think, is because T'Pol's dialogue is so well written, maybe the best the Beebs ever did with her dialogue.
Three scenes in particular stand out for me. At the beginning of the episode when when she and Archer are looking for a vehicle and T'Pol notices the "boot" on one of the car's wheels. She describes the boot to Archer as an "apparatus". She could have called it a "device" and that would have worked, but would have been the more expected word (especially in a Beeb's episode). "Apparatus" just seemed a more precise description and thus more likely to be used by the Vulcan scientist.
During the interrogation scene, after Loomis admits what he has been doing, in a moment that I think showed T'Pol's changing attitude toward humans, she laments that Loomis managed to embody some of the worst traits found in humans. Two years prior, T'Pol might not have found this unusual in a human.
Finally, in the car when Loomis lights a cigarette, T'Pol first asks him what he is doing. To her its just unnecessary fire in an enclosed space, something anyone not familiar with the human custom of smoking might think. Then instead of having her say, "put it out", a dialogue slip up which would not have surprised me, she more appropriately orders him to "extinguish" it.
T'Pol's dialogue and Jo's performance are another of the things that make "Carpenter Street" special to me.
"In one individual, we managed to find the worst qualities of this era." I don't think her views of humans in the 21st century was the same as those in the 22nd. Human history surely was a requisite study for Vulcans posted to Earth so she would have an idea of the quality of humans traits in past eras so Loomis merely confirmed what she had learnt.
Like your points there. ^^ To me, she was more Vulcan in that ep than any other. Btw, what was the first thing she did when she got into the car? Would one call that instinctive or calculated association of the ... device?
I'm not getting your point here.Like your points there. ^^ To me, she was more Vulcan in that ep than any other. Btw, what was the first thing she did when she got into the car? Would one call that instinctive or calculated association of the ... device?
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As in, her visual examination of the car interior led to the logical deduction of the purpose of the device or she simply just got in and automatically reached for it (in which case, it's Jolene reacting not T'Pol). I don't think there are such devices in any class of space capable vehicles in ST.
Archer on the other hand, had to fumble around and looked at the scans. I don't believe he even saw it. He was strapped in in later scenes though.
As in, her visual examination of the car interior led to the logical deduction of the purpose of the device or she simply just got in and automatically reached for it (in which case, it's Jolene reacting not T'Pol
). I don't think there are such devices in any class of space capable vehicles in ST.Archer on the other hand, had to fumble around and looked at the scans. I don't believe he even saw it. He was strapped in in later scenes though.
I thought there were a few funny lines thanks to T'Pol, but in general I didn't really like the episode. It was just another Xindi related episode that I thought this series could have done without.
Thanks! I missed that, but I have to admit that's one episode I don't rewatch frequently. Didn't Archer mention in this episode that oil consumption is eliminated soon? (I suppose cars run on something else?)
Wouldn't we have flying cars by the 22nd century that are called ... shuttles?
Shuttles would probably eliminate the need for airplanes (which use fossil fuels) for bulk or long distance travel, but I could easily see private travel being done by "clean energy" cars, maybe efficient electric ones, still on the ground. The road infrastructure makes more sense than having every random person zooming around in the sky.
When i was just a tot one of my most beloved movies was Starwars: with the little living teddy bears, and ST The Voyage home, which i still love so i have a big place in my heart for all time travel stories that take the characters to present day. They become almost innocent before the corruption and synicism of today and it goes a way to remind us of how backward we can view life, not caring about our fellow man, the enviroment and an obsession with gathering mega wealth, and other issues. all done in a slightly humours way. So i liked it.
It had one massive glaring problem though, but I still liked it.
It had one massive glaring problem though, but I still liked it.
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