Captain Robau: Should He Be Further Explored in Books and even on TV?

[The Wormhole]

Re: Captain Robau: Should He Be Further Explored in Books and even on

I think a Captain Robau TV series would be taking things too far.

However, there should be no reason for why we can't see Robau novels or comic books. After all, Pocket Books took an insignificant background extra from the DS9 episode Rapture and made him a central character in the post-finale DS9 novels. Captain Harriman has had at least three printed adventures as captain of the Enterprise B. Captain Garrett also has at least three printed adventures on the Enterpirse C. The nameless Number One from The Cage has her own comic book series. If they could do this, I think there's room for a novel or comic about Captain Robau and the USS Kelvin.

 

[Cyke101]

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After all, Pocket Books took an insignificant background extra from the DS09 episode Rapture and made him a central character in the post-finale DS09 novels.

Sorry, just had to fix that for you

 

[cooleddie74]

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Robau and the Kelvin are really the only "crossover" elements we can take from the new movie aside from Nimoy/Spock Prime. Something both timelines and realities share. While the chances of a Kelvin series are just short of nil at this stage in the game, it's fun to speculate what kind of an audience you'd get for it were it to happen. You'd draw in all the classic, Prime Timeline novel readers with the whole George and Winona Kirk thing...you'd get new Trekkers more or less born with the brand-new movie who liked or even loved the first ten minutes of the film...and you'd get the classic/TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT audience to a certain degree because it ties into the recognized timeline and we can have references to Zefram Cochrane, Jonathan Archer and the Third World War from time to time.

 

[SheliakBob]

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After all, Pocket Books took an insignificant background extra from the DS09 episode Rapture and made him a central character in the post-finale DS09 novels.

Sorry, just had to fix that for you

"09" is THAT much more significant a designation than the generally accepted "DS9"? REALLY? That's just wonky. seriously. dude.

 

[M'Sharak]

Re: Captain Robau: Should He Be Further Explored in Books and even on

After all, Pocket Books took an insignificant background extra from the DS09 episode Rapture and made him a central character in the post-finale DS09 novels.

Sorry, just had to fix that for you

"09" is THAT much more significant a designation than the generally accepted "DS9"? REALLY? That's just wonky. seriously. dude.

It makes more sense when you consider that The Wormhole has made something of a career, the last ten months or so, of raising a fuss about the wrongness of the Kelvin's registry number, with its leading zero: NCC-0514; witness also Wormhole's avatar, Loc: field and signature. Cyke is only playing along, by rules long established.

 

[Nick Ryder]

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I think a Kelvin show would really be what the franchise needs to keep it in the minds of fans and non-fans alike.

Although WHY there was no Captain Robau or George Kirk action figures in the recent playmates line... that sucks.

Honestly Star Trek: Kelvin would be what I think SOME fans thought Enterprise should have been. A pre-TOS show, that sort of lead into TOS.

Besides, a Kelvin show would really give service to all generations of fans. TOS/TNG era/NuTrek/Ent. Hell you could probably even throw in some ancestors of previous Trek characters. House of Mogh could make an appearance, an early Dax host (I think it was Emony around the PreTOS days right?)

 

[cooleddie74]

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Yeah, Emony was the Dax host around the time of Prime TOS and the altered movie universe. The gymnast who had the brief romantic fling with McCoy when he was at the University of Mississippi(at least in the original history she did). And I agree on the absence of Robau and George Kirk figures in the toy lines this year. That royally sucked. Sure, knowing Playmates and the other companies they'd manage to make Robau look like Mr. Clean or Jared Svenning(Michael Rooker)from MALLRATS instead of Faran Tahir...but still. It'd have been sweet.

 

[Nick Ryder]

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I think this would be a slam dunk for CBS/Paramount - at least its not dilluting the new movie timeline and "limiting" stories. It keeps with their previous edict that the Enterprise be a movie only ship - hence why it was only referred to, but never seen in ANY episodes of DS9 or Voyager. So it would keep the nuEnterprise movie only. The Kelvin would still be a familiar ship and you'd still have a Kirk around, but Kirk's poppa and mom. You'd have a cool Captain like Robau - who could be like a Sisko. I mean Ben Sisko et al. and the Voyager crew were never seen before in any of the previous Treks. At least this has the ability to be a spin off of the new movie AND still in the "Prime Timeline" so hell they could even do flash backs from the 24th Century if they really got desperate for a story.

Besides, I'd love to see what they could NOW with a new Trek series based on the movies. With all the new stuff they created for the movie not to mention with the looks of nuBSG/Stargate and other sci-fi that has sort of "re-written" what a Space based TV show should look like, Star Trek: Kelvin could be a really good shot in the arm of an aging TV franchise and it could always directly lead into a rebooted TOS-era show down the line too. I'd love to see more of the history of the Federation told on TV. First Contact with the Cardassians and Bajorans. First Contact with other races. And even if they don't get really big into telling "mythology" stories, just some good action packed adventures would make for great TV. Hell, show George Kirk romancing a young Winona under the tutelage of Captain Robau.Faran Tahir could certainly use a regular gig, he's a cool actor. I could see him really really being this generation's Ben Sisko. The "nice, easy going guy" off duty, and the badass take charge Captain when he's on duty.

 

[The Wormhole]

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You know, maybe if Hasbro did the Trek XI figures we'd already have a Captain Robau figure and a George Kirk. And an alien barfly, Kelvin helmsman, hovercop, Kirk and Spock as kids, Kirk's friend Johnny...

 

[cooleddie74]

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Which I wouldn't be opposed to. I've always been more of a STAR WARS figure afficionado than the figs put out by various companies over the course of the existence of TREK...but the new movie has been so awesome and some of the minor characters so memorable I could see myself buying the entire line.

But yeah...if nothing else we should have been offered Robau and George Kirk figures and dolls simply because they are important to the plot in ways none of the other minor characters really are.

 

[Nick Ryder]

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If it wasn't for Robau and Poppa Kirk, there would be no Jimmy.

 

[cooleddie74]

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Some say Robau is the reason there IS a Jimmy.

(*Coughs*)

But you didn't hear that from me.

 

[cooleddie74]

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Also, in a refinement to my earlier harder-easier-harder idea, I think it would be quite simple to recast someone who briefly appears about whom no one cares. In this case it would follow a simple easier-harder metric. The harder-easier-harder idea only applies when that character has a following.

Still, putting someone else besides Faran Tahir in the Robau role might not work even IF most people around the world don't know Robau from a hole in the wall. The movie's made enough money that enough people HAVE seen and liked the film and are familiar with the voice and appearance of Tahir's Robau in what amounts to ten of the best minutes of the entire movie. Recasting Robau might work for some, especially if Tahir weren't interested or asked for too much money to reprise the role, but to most Trekkers Robau and Tahir are one and the same.

 

[SheliakBob]

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Sorry, just had to fix that for you

"09" is THAT much more significant a designation than the generally accepted "DS9"? REALLY? That's just wonky. seriously. dude.

It makes more sense when you consider that The Wormhole has made something of a career, the last ten months or so, of raising a fuss about the wrongness of the Kelvin's registry number, with its leading zero: NCC-0514; witness also Wormhole's avatar, Loc: field and signature. Cyke is only playing along, by rules long established.

AH! Okay. I gets it now! Geez, I gotta remember to bring my score card with me next time.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

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but to most Trekkers Robau and Tahir are one and the same.

Indeed. In that role, nobody could ever be as badass as Tahir.

 

[Dane_Whitman]

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This is actually a great idea. We'd probably have to settle for a recast of George Kirk, because Chris Hemsworth is set to star in a movie that will likely propell his career way beyond settling for a television series at the moment, but as long as Tahir is part of the package, phasers are set to badassery.

 

[Nick Ryder]

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Well George Kirk probably wouldn't be too hard, just find an actor that kinda sorta kinda looks like Chris Pine or Shatner... lol okay maybe it would be. But he didn't have that distinctive a face, not like Robau. So I think fans would take a different actor as George Kirk, same with Winona. Although I think it definitely needs to have that alien nurse with those freaky big eyes! She's gotta stay!

 

[cooleddie74]

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Tahir MIGHT be the kind of actor who'd want to take a regular/recurring role that puts a Muslim-American in a very positive, heroic light at this point in history. Few Muslim actors since 9/11 have been able to helm truly positive, uplifting roles on the big or small screen and I get the feeling from interviews with Tahir that...while he loves the constant character-actor work as a baddie or thug in movies like IRON MAN...he would probably be more enthralled and involved in a role like Robau. It'd give him the chance to flesh him out more thoroughly even if the TV or online series didn't last that long. It would be a great opportunity for Tahir to improve the image of Muslim-Americans on screen at a time when they could certainly use it.

 

[I am not Spock]

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I think the source of this Robau worship is the fact that for once, we got a Starfleet captain in the movie series, that wasn't called James Kirk, who wasn't a total tool. Styles, Harriman, Esteban, etc, were all jerks who made Kirk look better.

Robau may have been fragged in the first five minutes, but as someone pointed out, Boba Fett had the same amount of screentime, and also met with an ignoble and unheroic demise.

 

[I am not Spock]

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It keeps with their previous edict that the Enterprise be a movie only ship - hence why it was only referred to, but never seen in ANY episodes of DS9 or Voyager.

Good point. But we actually did see the Enterprise D in the pilot of DS9. And several Galaxy class ships throughout DS9 and VOY. And we saw the original NCC1701 in 'Trials And Tribbleations'.

We never saw a Sovereign class in either DS9 or VOY, though.

I'll just get my coat...