I remember a brief period of time when the term 'Afro-American' was used.
The question is "Was it used with respect?"
I don't believe it was used as a slur and I think some prominent black leaders used it as a term of self-identification. If I remember correctly I think activist Angela Davis referred to herself that way but I can't be sure. It was a long time ago.
And such a comment makes him an idiot? That's rather emotional.......I presume the women had trouble getting used to having an idiot for a captain.
And such a comment makes him an idiot? That's rather emotional.......
Bending over backwards to defend this line is a waste of time, we all know what it meant and what time period that sentiment is from.
I remember a brief period of time when the term 'Afro-American' was used.
What would be the proper way to refer to, for example, Idris Elba? He is a person of color who is British. So what's the appropriate reference?
I tend to agree with this. It was a clumsy nod and a wink to tell the audience, look...THE WOMEN!It's a badly written line meant to cue the audience in on the fact that women and men are serving together on a ship — which back then was Talos-shattering.
He's an Afro-Briton, duh...What would be the proper way to refer to, for example, Idris Elba? He is a person of color who is British. So what's the appropriate reference?
I may have been too late editing in that wink smiley, I was afraid that might be taken seriously which it wasn't meant to be.^ Sorry.![]()
I would say that it's less bad writing than just an artifact of Roddenberry's mid 60's sexism.Well this is where the bad writing comes in.
Eh, TOS fans bend over backwards to try to justify the sexism behind "Turnabout Intruder"'s plot point that women can't be starship captains. This is just a stray line that's easily ignored. I don't see why it's a big problem, unless you insist on judging the past by the standards of the present, rather than seeing the episode in the context of its time.Bending over backwards to defend this line is a waste of time, we all know what it meant and what time period that sentiment is from.
I assumed Pike's remark about Number One being "different" referred to her cool, logical, thoroughly professional demeanor, as opposed to a "typically" emotional female. We saw a bit of that same 1960s mindset in the second pilot, where Gary Mitchell calls Elizabeth Dehner a "walking freezer unit." Later, Dr. Dehner says, "Women professionals do tend to overcompensate."Maybe Pike treated Number One as different because he had served with her before, or knew her from way back. In which case, Pike was accustomed to serving with her (his use of the familiar term 'Number One' to refer to an XO would seem to bear this out) so he didn't even think about her gender because he was so accustomed to having her there. It was like a "blind spot" to him.
When I was growing up in the 1950s and '60s, "Negro" and "colored" were used pretty much interchangeably. As I recall, most of the mainstream media were using "black" by 1970.I lived in the ghetto from my birth through 1965. Negro was more of a 1950s term. In my long-ago youth, it was "colored." Then in the mid-to-late 60s, it became "black" which was used until African-American came in. I'm lazy. I still use black. 1 syllable vs. 7.
Hot?As for "African-American" -- well, what do you call Charlize Theron?
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