Captain Archer - lame

[JiNX-01]

I think Archer set the record for number of times a Starfleet captain was captured. He was an awful fighter too. Jeez, Chekov coulda kicked his butt!!

28 times, that's probably a record.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/ent.htm

That is amazing that Archer was captured 28 times, Kirk was maybe 10 times and he was on a 5 year mission

One thing that is interesting is the ratings chart in your link. It's amazing that the ratings in the middle of season four were higher than at any time in the shows history and they cancelled the show anyway.

Did anybody here say Les Moonves had any brains?

 

[timelord1010]

I didn't think he had brains either, I just never knew Enterprise was doing so well. I knew the ratings improved but did not know they improved that much.

The clowns over at CW cancel Enterprise and the crapfest known as Smallville is in it's 10th season. I guess it's ok because Smallville is set in JJ Abrams alternate universe where Superman never flies and Vulcan is destroyed.

 

[Skywalker]

Uh, guys, I believe that chart depicts EAS' personal ratings of each episode, not the episodes' viewer ratings. ENT's ratings, like DS9 and VOY, were on a steady decline throughout the show's life. If season four had spiked like that, ENT wouldn't have been canceled.

 

[TEACAKE'S PLEATHER DOME]

I think that by the third episodes the Klingons should have eaten Porthos. It would have been a good way to build animosity between Archer and Klingons, and it would have prevented ANIS.

And you know Archer would have been FAR more upset about Klingons eating Porthos than if they had eaten Travis.

 

[Sorak]

Does anyone here find Archer's way of moving, of looking at things, of being there, just downright THICK? He constantly has the face of someone who tries hard to understand, but it's just beyond him. Besides when he gets angry he wouldn't scare a child.
He's the worst character in ENT. That's because Mayweather is not a character at all, but a dispensable, cheap cardboard.


My favourite is Phlox. I'm probably the only one here, but my favourite characters are always the brainy ones:

TOS: Spock
TNG: Data
DS9: Bashir
VOY: Tuvok and The Doctor
ENT: Phlox

There's definitely a pattern.

 

[Volkanismo]

Does anyone here find Archer's way of moving, of looking at things, of being there, just downright THICK? He constantly has the face of someone who tries hard to understand, but it's just beyond him. Besides when he gets angry he wouldn't scare a child.
He's the worst character in ENT. That's because Mayweather is not a character at all, but a comfortable, cheap cardboard.

He's behaviour is thick in a sense that he lacks the emotional and intellectual depth of other characters, thus becoming sort of a stock character in the series. I also agree with other posters in this thread that the writers could never really define what he was as a man and not just as a captain. His only emotional attachment to Porthos, his ex-rival and a brief romance with another captain is not convincing enough to make him the all-out sensitive and emotional human who despises Vulcans for their lack of compassion and emotion, and going around kicking or licking alien butt. Even when he is in a fight, his actions are so mannered, that he should say sorry each time he punches a guy in the face.

 

[Anji]

Okay, everybody record this moment because this is the one and only time I am actually going to defend Rick Berman.

In the beginning, I thought the way you guys did: Archer is an idiot. But then I began to see that we were not meant to watch a fully developed Starfleet Captain but to watch the development of one.

In the characters of Kirk and Archer we already see a fully developed Starfleet Captain and in their series we explore how the man develops within them.

With Archer we already have the man. And if you look at Archer he is a lot like us today, optimistic, naive and willing when it comes to the exploration of space.

If you watch carefully you see Archer take beating after beating in order to make him a captain. And with every defeat, every bloody nose and broken bone he learns a lesson that makes him a better commander...lessons Picard and Kirk learned before we meet them at the beginning of their prospective series.

When I looked at Enterprise from that perspective, Archer made sense.

Okay, I'm done.

 

[Mage]

In a way, I think they wanted Archer to be a bit naive about exploring. They wanted him to go out there with open arms and thinking if we play nice, everyone will like us.

It took a while for him to learn his lesson.

That being said, I still don't like him as a character and Bakula's performance was less then inspiring. I wish I could say I felt he was better in Quantum Leap, but I was just a little kid when that was one and I don't remember any of it, except that I loved it.

 

[HoneyBLilly]

Archer isn't too bad. He could have been much worse, in fact he's one of the best things in ENT for me.

 

[Pauln6]

I think the problem with Archer was that he was set in an era of exoloration and excitement but instead of being a Kirk-style action explorer, he was a sort of affable, liberal, bumbling explorer. The later seasons started to get the tone right but as with many shows that have shed too many viewers early on, it isn't easy to claw them back in time to satisfy the bean-counters.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

I like Sfdebris' idea that Archer was actually a street crazy that starfleet found and made a captain for some reason. Would explain alot of what he does

 

[Freman]

He is much better if you ignore a few early episodes, such as ANIS. But, when I watch ANIS I'm not thinking "How stupid is Archer?" I'm thinking "How stupid are these writers?" I think that by the third episodes the Klingons should have eaten Porthos. It would have been a good way to build animosity between Archer and Klingons, and it would have prevented ANIS.

huh huh huh you said ANIS. huh huh huh

 

[sonak]

Archer's the worst of the on-screen series Trek captains. He obviously got his position through nepotism.


If the idea was to see how a Joe six-pack kind of guy would do captaining a starship, I guess it kind of worked.

 

[Capt_Pickirk]

Archer's the worst of the on-screen series Trek captains. He obviously got his position through nepotism.


If the idea was to see how a Joe six-pack kind of guy would do captaining a starship, I guess it kind of worked.

If that was the idea, then it was the dumbest idea to be in Trek since 'Threshold'

 

[Rom's Sehlat]

Archer's the worst of the on-screen series Trek captains. He obviously got his position through nepotism.


If the idea was to see how a Joe six-pack kind of guy would do captaining a starship, I guess it kind of worked.

If that was the idea, then it was the dumbest idea to be in Trek since 'Threshold'

Which is hard to do, but Enterprise did it! I like Bakula, but the character he was given was pretty sorry.

 

[ChristopherPike]

Archer's the worst of the on-screen series Trek captains. He obviously got his position through nepotism.

Until JJ Abrams' take on another Enterprise Captain came along, anyway.

What is it with dead-Daddy = massive chip on my shoulder syndrome these days?

Although maybe I shouldn't be the one saying this, given I qualify for that category myself.