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Canon Violation!

The lame, contrived excuse of an explanation for the difference between TOS and TNG Klingons. Far better to have just accepted that different production values existed between the different series, and indeed TMP, than to have made up the rather pathetic reasons they did.

Regards.
 
Star Trek (2009) film. The whole thing should be erased from history.
DS9 wrap up. Loved the whole arc, but hated how things ended
TNG Ending.
ENT Ending.
ENT Alomst the whole series.
VOY "In the Flesh" - Loved the episode, but it ruined 8472.
Almost all Romulans.
Star Trek: Nemesis.
 
ENT. I wouldn't decanonize it, though, but it should be a parallel timeline (with all the time travel stuff et al).

Endgame.

Nemesis.
 
Shieldsdown said:
The lame, contrived excuse of an explanation for the difference between TOS and TNG Klingons. Far better to have just accepted that different production values existed between the different series, and indeed TMP, than to have made up the rather pathetic reasons they did.

Regards.
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Or that there were multiple races of Klingons from different planets living within the multi-planetary Klingon Empire.
 
Forbin said:
Shieldsdown said:
The lame, contrived excuse of an explanation for the difference between TOS and TNG Klingons. Far better to have just accepted that different production values existed between the different series, and indeed TMP, than to have made up the rather pathetic reasons they did.

Regards.
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Or that there were multiple races of Klingons from different planets living within the multi-planetary Klingon Empire.
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That is generally a great idea (we need more diversity in alien races). But it wouldn't have explained how Kor, Kang and Koloth got the ridges between TOS and DS9.
 
Start Wreck said:
The Borg Queen. "We are one. Except we're just servants for another one." Diluted the appeal of the Borg.
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The Borg Queen was fine in First Contact, when they made it clear that she was the embodiment of the Borg Collective, not its leader. It's when she started issuing verbal commands to drones that it got stupid.

DevilEyes said:
Fist McStrongpunch said:
Mixed-species characters - Humans can't cross-breed with a single other species on this planet, and we share a hell of a lot more genetic similarities with them than with a Vulcan, who's, y'know, not related at all.
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Right, Star Trek would be so much better if you removed Spock. :rolleyes: :wtf: :vulcan: :brickwall:
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I didn't say to get rid of Spock, but a full Vulcan can be just as compelling as a halfbreed if you've got a half-decent writer.
 
The TNG/DS9 Klingons. Well, maybe we'll make an exception for Worf.
Seven of Nine, and VOY's treatment of the Borg.
The Cardassian headgear mention--funny, though I did come up with a fun explanation for it in my fanfic.
The Cardassian uniform from "The Wounded." It's blocking my view of Gul Macet. ;)

Now, I know I'm in the minority, but I did not mind the Kosst Dukat. He sold his soul and he got what he deserved--Ninth Circle of Hell. The trouble is the way the ending was played in WYLB--I mean, either there was some REALLY serious time dilation in the Fire Caves or it was just BAD writing.
 
Out of everything I think that mainly "These Are The Voyages" should be thrown out, as other elements could theoretically (sp) explained away or simply ignored. "Turnabout Intruder" is probably up there as well, though the episode could have been probably been okay with just a more modern-day re-writing.

"These Are The Voyages" is perhaps the worst episode of Trek in all, as it tries to wrap one series by using another and destroys characters left and right. In all, it has one good scene and that's the Enterprise montage at the end - which is one of my fave scenes ever in Trek history.

Triskelion said:
and in the books, Janeway
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Not canon, so what does it matter?
 
Section 31, I don't want the Federation to have a autonomous "Protective Echelon"

Picard and Data wearing funny masks and the Enterprise D turning into a stone temple.

The three (?) times LaForge couldn't eject the warp core.

Start Wreck said:
Enterprise's technology. It would have been much more interesting (and believable) if they had no transporters or energy weapons.
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Archer's Enterprise was too big.

DevilEyes said:
- Turnabout Intruder suggestion that women cannot be captains in the 23rd century :rolleyes: :vulcan: Really. I hope I don't need to explain why, do I?
- The dialogue in Wolf in the Fold where Spock says that it is a scientific fact that women are more prone to fear :rolleyes: :klingon: and any other such stupid and sexist dialogue in TOS
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I disagree, looking back at TOS from the year 2009, the position of women in that society give the show a extra science fiction feel, a reminder that we're looking at a future time and culture, one that is different from ours.

T
 
DevilEyes said:
Forbin said:
Shieldsdown said:
The lame, contrived excuse of an explanation for the difference between TOS and TNG Klingons. Far better to have just accepted that different production values existed between the different series, and indeed TMP, than to have made up the rather pathetic reasons they did.

Regards.
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Or that there were multiple races of Klingons from different planets living within the multi-planetary Klingon Empire.
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That is generally a great idea (we need more diversity in alien races). But it wouldn't have explained how Kor, Kang and Koloth got the ridges between TOS and DS9.
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And I was SO mad at DS9 for doing that! :klingon:
 
Forgivable errors and resuse of unredressed props caused by tight schedules and budgets that come with producing an episodic TV series:

* Increase signal gain by "1 to the 4th power" in TOS: Court Martial
* Reuse of the Angel One cityscape, interior of the Aeon timeship, one console of the Delta Flyer seen in a room at Starfleet headquarters and Voyager's Science Lab (which can actually be explained away), etc.
* A couple of mentions of "deck 5" of the Defiant when it should have been "deck 2, section 5"
* Warbird firing a disruptor through the main deflector in VOY: Message in a Bottle
* Impulse engines missing from the warbird model
* Dr. Crusher seen wearing a watch
* Comm badge on the wrong side
* A very slightly modified Starfleet shuttlecraft appearing in the series Seven Days, complete with Odudagram displays

Also, jokes, like the Easter eggs on the Enterprise-D MSD, cute phrases on Starfleet equipment ID tags, and the Millennnium Falcon in FC.

And I hope the reboot is not considered canon.
 
I try to be as inclusive as possible.

For that reason I would only reject threshold and Star Trek 5.
 
T'Girl said:
DevilEyes said:
- Turnabout Intruder suggestion that women cannot be captains in the 23rd century :rolleyes: :vulcan: Really. I hope I don't need to explain why, do I?
- The dialogue in Wolf in the Fold where Spock says that it is a scientific fact that women are more prone to fear :rolleyes: :klingon: and any other such stupid and sexist dialogue in TOS
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I disagree, looking back at TOS from the year 2009, the position of women in that society give the show a extra science fiction feel, a reminder that we're looking at a future time and culture, one that is different from ours.

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No. It serves as a reminder that TOS made in the 1960s and makes it feel outdated, and also severely undermines the message that the show was supposed to convey - that human society in a few centuries will be more evolved (not less evolved, which moments like these suggest) where women and men of different nationalities and ethnicities will all have equal rights and work together in the future; see "Tomorrow Is Yesterday" (written by D. C. Fontana), where a 20th century cosmonaut is shocked to see a woman on the ship: "A woman?" Kirk: "A crewmember". But there were quite a few cases where the show failed badly in that regard, by inserting sexism into the scripts. Apparently, (some of) the writers could conceive that women would have more rights in the future, like being able to fly in space and become officers, but had problems imagining women having the same rightsand being able to become ship captains, even in 3 centuries time.

But 40 years later, we see this is outdated, since women's rights are already far more advanced than some of the TOS writers imagined it would be in 300 years.
 
SFRabid said:
There are no canon violations in Trek, only alternate universes. ;)

What would I like to get rid of?

  • Toto, ummm, I mean Porthos.
  • Any recordings of Nicole Janeway.
  • Bedroom scenes of Kai Winn
  • Any clip of Rom saying "Uhhh", "Duh", "Brother", ... Hell, just get rid of Rom.
  • Boy Toy Ricker scene.
  • The last episode of TOS. For all of the positive visions of the future they still could not conceive of a woman being captain?
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just you wait. as soon as i can add an avatar, it's my kiss with dukat. :p
 
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