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Canon Violation!

Triskelion

Triskelion

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Of all the Star Trek movies, series and publications, merchandise, experiences and conventions, and anything else Trek related - what would you like to throw into the krypto-revisionist canon reclamator - and seal the room tighter than Crewman Daniels' quarters and let Captain Annorax erase from the timeline?

What elements, large or small, would you decanonize, or throw into the Canon Closet, or a subspace sinkhole, never to be seen or heard from again?


Off the top of me head:

Threshold
Endgame (Voyager's transphasic torpedoes & regenerative shielding)
TATV
rocket boots
Crusher and Troi's leotards
TNG's man-miniskirt
Cardassian headgear
the red snapper in XI
destruction of a logical planet
death of Yar & Data - and in the books, Janeway
cast, crew & director/producers that lump Trek into "sci:rolleyes:fi"

- and anything else that pulls threads from the basic Trek universe for the purposes of a single project.

Your turn! :)
 
No suprise that I can easily say that the death of Kathryn is a fine choice for the temporal oblivion bin. Zero repect to trueVoyagerfans everywhere, I think I can safely cover there. The exit of Kes, really, comes in first, but Kath's my second favorite female character in all Trek....Tasha I'm with you there, too, and Data. Trip, too, absolutely. To help those who would add this, toss in Jadzia Dax's out, too, while we're at it, on their behalf, like a cuz in Fla who's a big JD fan...sure, it's not going to help, but it feels right! Threshold why not? Spock's Brain, too..
 
The warp 5 speed limit.
The death of Picard's brother and nephew.
The Temporal Cold War.
Oh hell, all of Enterprise for that matter.
K'Ehlyr's death (did I spell her name right yet?)
Jadzia's death.
The "no female captains" notion from TOS.
Salamanders.
Yar's death.
Wesley.
The Borg Queen.
Q comedy.
Romulan foreheads.
....
 
There are no canon violations in Trek, only alternate universes. ;)

What would I like to get rid of?

  • Toto, ummm, I mean Porthos.
  • Any recordings of Nicole Janeway.
  • Bedroom scenes of Kai Winn
  • Any clip of Rom saying "Uhhh", "Duh", "Brother", ... Hell, just get rid of Rom.
  • Boy Toy Ricker scene.
  • The last episode of TOS. For all of the positive visions of the future they still could not conceive of a woman being captain?
 
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Shatner AND his toupee & girdle.
Lava lamp warp core with self-breaching capability.
Deanna Troi. She made the argument for no female captains almost plausible.
 
Anwar said:
Spock's line about "atomic weaponry" in Balance of Terror.
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Alternatively, Enterprise in its entirety.:p

Also, Voyager in its entirety.

Significant portions of Generations, all of First Contact, and a fair amount of Nemesis.

The wrap-up of the pah-wraiths arc in DS9, at least as done.

The aforementioned Romulan foreheads. Maybe their David Byrne-approved uniforms too. :p

Cross-species hybrids. All of them. From Spock onward. We don't need a certain sequence of genes to relate to the humanity of the character, it's kind of the whole point of the show.

"The Chase," at least exactly as it was done. I think the idea is fantastic, but badly botched in execution.

Eugenics War and WW3 being separate events; the former ending thirteen years ago.

The last hour of Daybr... oh, right Star Trek.

Okay, I think I can live with everything else.

P.S.: I liked the man-skirt. In fifty years, we'll all be wearing them.
 
Star Trek (JJ's flick)
Threshold
Spock's Brain
Way to Eden
Scotty's line in Balance of Terror about the Romulans' engines.
 
These Are the Voyages... - The most offensive hour of Trek ever. "Hey, you know that show you've been watching for 4 years? Well, you cares, wasn't TNG the greatest?"

Data's death - Completely pointless. The sole reason for it was to mimic TWOK even more.

Mixed-species characters - Humans can't cross-breed with a single other species on this planet, and we share a hell of a lot more genetic similarities with them than with a Vulcan, who's, y'know, not related at all.
 
Trip's senseless death in tatv was totally stupid and unecessary. So was Kirk's death and data's and Tasha yar's deaths.
 
No one has yet mentioned the fact that Spock Died, then his dead body was somehow morphed into a baby boy that grew up super fast (stupid protomatter)
 
The loss of the Enterprise-D in GEN (would much rather have seen her go in a blaze of glory against the Borg in FC, in a final saucer sep, manned by a few main characters (maybe Riker, LaForge, and Worf) who then watch the battle section blow up from their escape pod windows. Then probably Data would be the one commanding when the civilian section crash lands. Something like that)
 
"Number 1" not being allowed on away missions, and Pike's "Sorry, I'm just not used to having a woman on the bridge" line.

Data being able to turn off his emotion chip at will after it fused with his neural net and couldn't be removed or shut off in the previous film.
 
carlmarx said:
Pike's "Sorry, I'm just not used to having a woman on the bridge" line.
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Actually, that line is really odd considering there is at least one other woman on the bridge besides Number One. When the paper prints off with details about Talos IV, there's a female officer sitting at a station nearby. Or was this other officer a "special exception" like Number One?
 
Threshold. Nice idea, but did nothing worthwhile with it and leaves too many questions unanswered (I like to assume Q was involved in planting "magic dilithium" for Voyager to find, but it's easier if it doesn't exist at all).

Requiem For Methuselah. Simply because the idea that loads of Earth's famous historic people were really the same super-human who then went off to make an android for himself is a bit... disrespectful. It's like saying all our great works of art and science are due to a 'glitch in the system', and not because we are occasionally just that great. Plus it doesn't tie in with later interpretations of the man (holo-DaVinci in Voyager, etc.).

The Borg Queen. "We are one. Except we're just servants for another one." Diluted the appeal of the Borg.

Enterprise's technology. It would have been much more interesting (and believable) if they had no transporters or energy weapons.

Tomorrow Is Yesterday. Their clocks ran backwards (why would a clock run backwards, unless it specifically knew the 'outdoor' time, but how would it know that), they were at warp for a considerable amount of time within the space between Earth and the Sun, and then used the transporter while at warp to beam people into their own past selves' bodies, and didn't run into their own ship (which had mysteriously vanished from history). Yet another one I have to chalk up to "a wizard did it", I'm afraid. Or whatever the Sci-Fi equivalent is.
 
Fist McStrongpunch said:
Mixed-species characters - Humans can't cross-breed with a single other species on this planet, and we share a hell of a lot more genetic similarities with them than with a Vulcan, who's, y'know, not related at all.
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Right, Star Trek would be so much better if you removed Spock. :rolleyes: :wtf: :vulcan: :brickwall:

Seriously, the following really needs to be stricken from canon:

- Turnabout Intruder suggestion that women cannot be captains in the 23rd century :rolleyes: :vulcan: Really. I hope I don't need to explain why, do I?
- The dialogue in Wolf in the Fold where Spock says that it is a scientific fact that women are more prone to fear :rolleyes: :klingon: and any other such stupid and sexist dialogue in TOS

Things that Trek would really be better off if they were stricken from canon:

- VOY Threshold - but I think it already has been, sort of...
- ST V Final Frontier - there's something I agree with Roddenberry on
- modern Romulan ridges
- TOS Mudd's Women
- TNG Code of Honor
- DS9 Fascination
- most of the Mirror Universe episodes on DS9, except perhaps the first one
- The Borg Queen
- Space Jesus Sisko's mom possessed by the Prophets
- red eye Dukat the Anti-Emissary
- for that matter, the Pah-wraiths in general

I'm not counting anything from the books, since they are not canon anyway, unless certain things in them are specifically made canon by being included or referenced in the shows or movies.
 
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