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"Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new movie

Admiral Buzzkill

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I went to see "Cloverfield" yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it...there's an ad in front of it, BTW, that some of you may like.

Anyway, I enjoyed the movie but something troubled me. Right up front, of course, is the logo for J.J. Abrams' production company "Bad Robot."

It's basically an animation of a cute little floppy robot running around through some high grass. I don't know why it's running; maybe that scary "I Am Legend" monster from the Mutant Enemy logo is chasing it.

Anyway, that's when I realized that this goofy little robot is going to be chasing butterflies right at the beginning of the "Star Trek" movie!

This violates canon on two fronts.

First, of course, for forty years every Trek production has featured some variation of the Paramount logo**: a majestic mountain vista, wreathed in stars. Breathtaking, and wholey appropriate as an introduction to each segment of a saga dedicated to heroism, exploration, idealism and Blowing Up Spaceship Models.

For forty years! Now we're supposed to just accept this robot and not notice that it was never there before?

Plus, it's a CGI robot - doesn't look a thing like a real goofy robot. Only a bunch of punk kids who have destroyed their vision by shooting up their retinas with ecstasy every day since primary school could accept this obviously phony effect.

Second, there are no robots in "Star Trek." Well, except for human-looking ones like Mudd's Women and Danny Thomas' daughter and Data-the-sex-droid. No sad-eyed cartoon floppy-bunny-bots of the kind clearly more suitable for introducing movies about Manhattan yuppies being savaged by giant sea creatures.

That's it. I'm out. J.J. Abrams can take this travesty and bury it on Altair IV along with the remains of his buddy and crewmate "Doc" Ostrow for all I care.

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** Except for the first few episodes of TOS, which were signed by that Desilu guy that the Ricardos worked for.
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

^Maybe he can borrow Joss's Mutant Enemy logo:

"Gurr....

Argh!!!"
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

As long as they pronounce robot as "row-bit," like in the old science-fiction movies, I'm fine with it.
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

Maybe they should rename it to 'Bad Robant'. Because robant sounds cooler. :vulcan:
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

I have it on good authority that any feature films set in the Mirror Universe will be produced by "Good Robot."
 
Starship Polaris said:
Anyway, that's when I realized that this goofy little robot is going to be chasing butterflies right at the beginning of the "Star Trek" movie!

It's called change, get used to it. :cool:
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

Samuel T. Cogley said:
I have it on good authority that any feature films set in the Mirror Universe will be produced by "Good Robot."

You mean the production company of J.J. Adams?

I knew they shouldn't have let him keep Robby...
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

Kegek said:
Samuel T. Cogley said:
I have it on good authority that any feature films set in the Mirror Universe will be produced by "Good Robot."

You mean the production company of J.J. Adams?

I knew they shouldn't have let him keep Robby...

Hell, they shouldn't have let him keep Anne Francis. Wimmin on ships is nuttin' but trouble!
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

Starship Polaris said:
Danny Thomas' daughter

For a few minutes I was racking my brain trying to remember when Marlo Thomas was on Star Trek (and playing a robot!!). :lol:

I finally figured it out. She was one hot robot.
 
Starship Polaris said:
This violates canon on two fronts.
Not at all.

It's just a commercial for a production company, that just happens to be the production company of the new movie, and just happens to play immediately before the new movie starts.

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scotthm said:Not at all.

It's just a commercial for a production company, that just happens to be the production company of the new movie, and just happens to play immediately before the new movie starts.

There was this "swooshing" noise, see...
 
You see, it's this hysterical response to change that gives you Trekkies a bad name.

When JJ Abrams revealed that the Enterprise in this movie would transform into a talking dog voiced by Patton Oswalt, a lot of you hysterical Trekkies went on long screeds about how bad an idea it was (Ahem, and I quote: "that's a bad idea." Sheesh--and move out of your mom's basement, too. Oh, and OMG, Shatner's soooo fat!) instead of just trusting that the living gods who gave us Silly Girl in College and The Kewl Girl Worship Spy Hour and The See, I Told You We Could Come up with a Dumb, Meandering Show which Says Nothing and Goes Nowhere and We'd be Called Brilliant So Long as We Include Polar Bears and Monsters Show and Generic, Inchoate Michael Bay Smash 'Em Up Rowbit Movie and The Nudge Nudge, I Bet the Big Girl Goes down on the Little Girl in between Cheesy Fight Sceens Yiyiyiyiyi! Show should be trusted in all things. Likewise when it was leaked that Wynona Kirk and Amanda Greyson would be sisters in the new film and that a time travelling tribble would be the bad guy and that all the Trek characters up to and including Simon Van Gelder would have attended the same high school in Van Nuys--you guys howled as if Mike Tyson himself were romancing your childhoods prison style (Ahem, and I quote again: "man, that sounds really stupid." For crissakes!)

Hellooooo! Change is good, people! If Roddenberry's original was so great, why are these guys improving it instead of making something original, like another movie based on Mission: Impossible or The Transformers. Oh, wait...

P.S.: Ooooooh, this straw man mocking of fellow fans is fun! And it's so easy, you don't even have to think or have resapect for the opinions of others!
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

PKTrekGirl said:
^Maybe he can borrow Joss's Mutant Enemy logo:

"Gurr....

Argh!!!"

Please tell me this thread is not long for the world...it's clearly another misleading "joke" thread.

And it's not at all funny, I might add.

\S/
 
Re: "Canon" problem with the opening sequence of the new mov

It is kinda sad: first we get a thread shamelessly baiting those of us Trek fans who still kinda like Shatner and now we get a thread transparently mocking those of us fans who aren't making sticky messes of our underpants upon seeing yet another "look, we have a better idea!" variant of the Enterprise in the teaser trailer.

I know from boredom, people, but really: isn't this why the good lord made books? Or at least, porn...
 
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