Can we just pretend that Voyager never happened?
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According to Seven they're mostly after technology they don't have, which is why 8472 was such a tempting target to them initially.
The Borg would have taken any satellite network?
We've never actually seen a Borg planet, maybe it's filled with amusement parks and Las Vegas type of cities. After all with that technology of theirs they must have heaps of time on their hands... and they don't spend anytime copulating or eating meals so...
that leaves only gambling and prepubescent types of games.
Pretend Voyager didn't happen? If a series (or episode or movie or character) is not someone's cup of tea I encourage ignoring it, pretending like it doesn't exist. There is no reason to think about an entertainment that doesn't suit one. Life is too short to clutter it with entertainments one does not care for. Pretend away! Now for me Voyager is the series that returned me to the roots of what I admire most about the OriginalSeries; relevant social commentary, philosophical posits, characters I deeply care about, a captain I enjoy and greatly admire, action stories, adventure stories, heart, great production values. So Voyager IS *my* cup of tea. It is the series I return to again and again for just a nice watch, or if I'm feeling low and am in need of a pick me up, or to once again happily join the Journey of these people and starship I admire and care about so much. I encourage you to pretend it never happened if that's what is best for you though.
I believe it was more on the hyperbolic/rhetorical side. What he meant was that this series was of inferior quality vis a vis the others, not necessarily that we should big-brother it out of our existence.
Why pretend?
Do you want to borrow my time machine?
Do you want to borrow my time machine?
I have a time machine, although I must admit most people call it a watch...
You hold Michael Piller's Family hostage until he returns a draft for Voyager that does not make you queasy.
Time travel is pretty pointless is you don't know how to apply leverage.
I saw a Twilight Zne from the 60s recently where this time traveller shows up to Pearl Harbour 3 hours before the Japanese attack and yells at people like a mad man. When he gets back ot the future, he says to his friend "Well, I tried."
Fuck, you you tried.
You show up the day before and root out the declaration of war that fell behind a radiator in the office of some general that's suppose to get that sort of mail, and show it to him.
Time travel is pretty pointless is you don't know how to apply leverage.
I saw a Twilight Zne from the 60s recently where this time traveller shows up to Pearl Harbour 3 hours before the Japanese attack and yells at people like a mad man. When he gets back ot the future, he says to his friend "Well, I tried."
Fuck, you you tried.
You show up the day before and root out the declaration of war that fell behind a radiator in the office of some general that's suppose to get that sort of mail, and show it to him.
That's assuming Pearl Harbor wasn't left that way on purpose. They say they removed all state of the art equipment before the attack.
Lack of spacefaring doesn't equal lack of technological advancement. We, the human race, focused our efforts on expanding outwards into space. We developed the technology to reach Mars before we had even reached the bottom of our own oceans. Regardless of what is the usual Trek approach to aliens (humans with behavioural hats), aliens would have their own set of priorities on where to focus their technological advances that in no way have to parallel ours.
The best comparison I can think of is War of the Worlds. The Martians were much more highly advanced then us in a lot of ways, but their different development meant it had simply never occured to them to create the wheel. Except (to stretch the metaphor) youre suggesting we dismiss the technological advancement of the Martians, simply because they may not have invented the wheel. 'May' because the only evidence suggesting they didn't, was that there were no wheels found in Mars remains after the some wheel-assimilating cyborgs had had stole/blown the crap out of everything.
And to answer the OP? No. It has its problems, but Star Trek would be a lesser franchise if Robert Picardo had never been introduced into it. Oh, and accidentally catching 'Lifesigns' as a kid was what got me watching Trek in the first place.
Or the ability to comprehend how the immune system works.
Martian Dave: Hey, Steve, let's take our massive Martian ships to Earth and conquer the puny earthlings
Martian Steve: Good idea Dave. I just hope they don't have any kind of bacteria that might scupper things cos as you know mate, we Martians don't really understand how the immune systems works
I thought about that, but since we were talking about technology...
Its kind-of the same though - at the time Wells would have had no idea that bacteria could be found anywhere other than Earth. The novels Martians were implied to lack an immune system altogether, because in all their world conquering they had never run across bacteria before reaching Earth (we're 'lucky'). The invaders didn't 'forget', it was just a risk they never imagined existed.
Which is why it's always a bad idea for the captain to beam down with the away team when first exploring 'strange new worlds.'
Its kind-of the same though - at the time Wells would have had no idea that bacteria could be found anywhere other than Earth. The novels Martians were implied to lack an immune system altogether, because in all their world conquering they had never run across bacteria before reaching Earth (we're 'lucky'). The invaders didn't 'forget', it was just a risk they never imagined existed.
Which is why it's always a bad idea for the captain to beam down with the away team when first exploring 'strange new worlds.'
Season 8 of Deep Space 9.
Captain Kira wedged between the Romulans and Klingon reminiscing about the good old days when she could just murder assholes who pissed her off.
Star Trek the Next, Next Generation.
Morgan Bates Captaining the Enterprise D who is actually going to romance the #### out of Deanna while Riker sits alone in the dark playing with his trombone.
The Way of the P'Tahk.
Teenage shirtless Klingons, getting drunk and lost in a constant world of threesomes, and murder. Blowing crap up, stealing, and pissing on their enemies corpses.
Captain Kira wedged between the Romulans and Klingon reminiscing about the good old days when she could just murder assholes who pissed her off.
Star Trek the Next, Next Generation.
Morgan Bates Captaining the Enterprise D who is actually going to romance the #### out of Deanna while Riker sits alone in the dark playing with his trombone.
The Way of the P'Tahk.
Teenage shirtless Klingons, getting drunk and lost in a constant world of threesomes, and murder. Blowing crap up, stealing, and pissing on their enemies corpses.
Actually, after Janeway was done with the timeline, Voyager probably didn't happen.
So you think Janeway was Future Guy from Enterprise?
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