That was "Not your father's Star Trek", not "Please mail your Star Trek media to the following address:"
Can we drop the "alternate timeline" nonsense?
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True but in 2003-'08 it was far from obvious that Trek could only succeed if it went back to the original characters and thus there was no other choice.
I think it was pretty obvious as the returns on what was out there continued to dwindle. Does anyone think yet another crew or the "Justice League of Trek" was going to improve the franchise's fortunes?
Like anything in film/tv, if done right, it can be successful. Who thought a Lego movie was a good idea?
It's a matter of getting talent to develop the project. It really doesn't matter what direction they decide to go in, as long as they do it well. In my opinion anyway.
I never subscribe to the idea that there's only one solution when it comes to art.
It's a matter of getting talent to develop the project. It really doesn't matter what direction they decide to go in, as long as they do it well. In my opinion anyway.
I never subscribe to the idea that there's only one solution when it comes to art.
I'm sure a lot of people thought it was a good idea. Hollywood usually won't drop $60 million dollars on something everyone thinks is a bad idea.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lego.htm
I'm sure a lot of people thought it was a good idea. Hollywood usually won't drop $60 million dollars on something everyone thinks is a bad idea.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lego.htm
Come on, did my point really go over your head or are you just being an antagonist? You're talking in hindsight. I'm talking about when we heard about the idea of a Lego movie being in development. How many of us legitimately thought "ya, this is a $470 mill idea"? I call complete BS. They're also developing Pez and Emoji movies. You think those are good ideas?
Lego was done well, so it was a success. As can any idea be in hollywood, IF DONE WELL.
Those of us with kids or have nostalgia for Lego's? I think anyone could tell you, beforehand, that the Lego movie was going to be a hit.
Since Minions is incredibly popular, who knows? I'm sure Hollywood has done a ton of research on the ideas.
This was completely unnecessary, and you've been asked before to refrain from that sort of tactic.
If you are unable to say something without being insulting, being condescending, or otherwise making it personal where there's no need whatsoever for so doing, you ought to give serious consideration to simply not saying that thing at all.
Your response here was to retroactively predict "a hit" for Lego, but I notice you're not willing to go so far for Pez and Emoji, with "who knows?" I'd enjoy a prediction with the same certainty into the future as the past on the same point.
Are there now industry expert writers who specialize in turning these things into movies now? How about the Twitter icon next? Maybe IHOP? Is there a movie writer's guide book coming out, "Save the Logo!"?
Complete tangent (or maybe not): With all these revenue numbers so easily available now (e.g., boxofficemojo), how is it that Hollywood Accounting (tm) is still such a mystery?
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Because tickets sold is only one piece of an incredibly complex equation that includes TV contracts (domestic and international), home video sales, tax breaks for studios, how much they are paying in interest on the money they borrow to make the movie, percentage cut that theaters get, merchandising...
We still know very little about much of the cost of making a movie.
Since we don't know anything about either project, it still falls under "who knows?"
A couple of points (only partially related, potentially).
Lego is a well known property (video games have expanded the already well known toy market) and their market share has only steadily increased over the years. They have added value to their brand by licensing other names. MegaBlocks has only recently been able to compete with them in any meaningful way, at least from my consumer point of view.
A Lego movie seemed only logical to me. Was it going to be 60 million logical? Doubtful, but they took their film very seriously, despite the subject material, and it shows.
Secondly, Hollywood accounting is complicated-as in US government tax code complicated. The number of things that can be put against a film's profit is a ridiculously long list, and this is only based on details I know from friends who work in the industry. Everything BillJ listed, in addition to other costs, including food, travel, distribution, legal fees, can all be put against the profit of a film.
I recall one story (can't remember the franchise, but it might have been Star Wars) where an actor asked for a cut of the profits from his contract. The accounting department, supposedly, told him that film he had been a part of had not made any money
Yeah, that's Hollywood accounting for you.
I recall one story (can't remember the franchise, but it might have been Star Wars) where an actor asked for a cut of the profits from his contract. The accounting department, supposedly, told him that film he had been a part of had not made any money
Yeah, that's Hollywood accounting for you.
http://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-...f-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/
The only thing we know about Hollywood bookkeeping is that we know very little.
Mistaken premise. A few numbers, like estimated box office, are available for lots of films. There's not enough information about most films to put those numbers into any kind of reliable context.
For one example just page randomly through boxofficemojo and see how many films are listed with a budget of "NA" - the studios don't have to make this information public and don't always.
I recall one story (can't remember the franchise, but it might have been Star Wars) where an actor asked for a cut of the profits from his contract. The accounting department, supposedly, told him that film he had been a part of had not made any money
Yeah, that's Hollywood accounting for you.
http://deadline.com/2010/07/studio-...f-warner-bros-phony-baloney-accounting-51886/
The only thing we know about Hollywood bookkeeping is that we know very little.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
I didn't mean the complicated machinery of the accounting so much as the ticket transparency and the actual sources for such "real" numbers. No matter how complicated, someone could release the end result. Of course the second set of books will never be revealed without a number of deaths being involved. Did the Sony breach even get numbers?
I'm sure a lot of people thought it was a good idea. Hollywood usually won't drop $60 million dollars on something everyone thinks is a bad idea.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lego.htm
The Battleship movie says hi... Also, movie studios have recently bought the film rights to Monopoly and Settlers of Catan...
I'm sure a lot of people thought it was a good idea. Hollywood usually won't drop $60 million dollars on something everyone thinks is a bad idea.
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=lego.htm
The Battleship movie says hi... Also, movie studios have recently bought the film rights to Monopoly and Settlers of Catan...
And Ghostwriter, and there were rumors about Sorry, and of course, Clue, the grandfather of them all.
Lego movie at least had a built in fan base and a merchandiser waiting in the wings. The same cannot be said for any of the other listed properties.
Someone is making yet another Clue movie?
Sorry, no. That was a reference to board game adaptations being started by that film (if not before).
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