I couldn't disagree more, about the cheap produced DVD movies. If you watch the Stargate movies, you will see that it really is possible to do a big Sci-Fi action movie on a DVD budget.
Of course this will never happen, but it is fun to dream.
Can Destiny be filmed?
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Of course this will never happen, but it is fun to dream.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy just how many Star Trek actors voiced characters on Gargoyles.
In addition to Frakes and Sirtis are Michael Dorn, Brent Spiner, Kate Mulgrew, Nichelle Nichols, Avery Brooks, LeVar Burton, and Colm Meaney. (Though they weren't regular cast, but recurring and guest characters)
It works a lot better as a book IMHO. As a previous poster noted there are too many moments that cannot be caught on screen at the same level. (Although it would be great to see Andrew J Robinson as Garak again!)
Wow!! I loved that series and never knew that!!
Though at the time, I never worried about actors.
Though I'm content with books, I've always preferred them.
^ Robot Chicken: Destiny
But how much would you have to cut out of each book to fit it into a two-hour slot?
This is obviously an academic question, but I wonder if David Mack -- who is, after all, trained in script-writing and filmmaking -- would care to outline a few thoughts on whether or not the Destiny trilogy could be adapted to film and how he might go about structuring such a script.
What I meant is that we wouldn't get to see the real actors visually - only comic-like pictures or CGI-effects. It just wouldn't be the real thing.
I don't think the most important elements of the trilogy could be filmed, because they were rooted in the characters' points of view. The final transformation would be especially hard to represent on screen, though I think it could be done.
If one were to try anyway, I'd think that each book would need about four hours of screen time. We'd be looking at something on the scale of Peter Jackson's adaptation of The Lord of the Rings, even with much material excised.
And it would probably be just as epic on the screen.
On the subject of script writing, slight off-topic, but something I was wondering. Were you (and your co-writer) trying to destroy the Defiant in the original version of "Starship Down" by having it crushed under water, or would it have been salvaged by the end of the episode?
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Starship_Down_(episode)
I agree with you there William. I don't understand why it's such an honor to have a novel adapted to another media, especially film. A novel can have much greater scope than could ever be achieved in a motion picture adaption. No budget constraints in novels. Plus, we need to exercise our imaginations once in a while without some special effects technician doing the work for us.
Our original outline called for the ship to make its heroic escape after many harrowing near-disasters. John and I talk about it in greater detail in the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine Companion.
Many of the ideas that I was forced to abandon in "Starship Down" eventually became part of my first full-length novel, Star Trek: S.C.E. – Wildfire.
Well, to be honest, if I were Dave I'd feel terribly honored and flattered that so many people thought my books were worthy of a big-screen treatment. Even more so if someone at Paramount thought the same and wanted to pay me Hollywood money for them.
But it's the fixation of some readers with the idea of turning the books into a motion picture(s) that I don't quite get. Particularly when, as Dave says above, so much of Destiny is internal. Yes, watching kewl space battles and 'splosions and cubes gittin' blowed up real good would be entertaining... but any Hollywood jackass can write a movie like that. As has been ably demonstrated multiple times over the last couple decades.
Plus there's the fact that you'd be introducing audiences to a lot of elements that have played out over several years of Trek lit. On top of the Titan, Dax becoming a command officer, the new crew of the Enterprise, and the Bacco Administration, you'd also have to introduce the Aventine, the crew of the Columbia, and the Caeliar, which is lot to try to do in a series of films or episodes of a miniseries. It's doable, though.
Sure, it could be filmed, but it would suck (unless Peter Jackson did it). In my experience, 99% of all book-to-film adaptations fail. However I believe the LOTR trilogy is the greatest movie ever filmed, so there you go. Kind of ironic.
On a similar note, HBO is planning to create a TV show based of George R. R. Martin's incredibly awesome Song of Ice and Fire series. I'm afraid this will suck as well, because if anyone else here has read these books, I'm sure you'd agree that they're waaaay to epic to filmed. Even if they spend 10-15 hours on each book, there are just to many characters and locations to get it right.
Sorry for going O/T there.
On a similar note, HBO is planning to create a TV show based of George R. R. Martin's incredibly awesome Song of Ice and Fire series. I'm afraid this will suck as well, because if anyone else here has read these books, I'm sure you'd agree that they're waaaay to epic to filmed. Even if they spend 10-15 hours on each book, there are just to many characters and locations to get it right.
Sorry for going O/T there.
theoretically, yes, but no one would approve the budget.
I think that animation is the only way to make such a movie since the actors have aged and some of them would probably say "no thanks" to a Voyager movie.
But honestly, there are better books which could be used for an animated Voyager movie, such as "The Black Shore" by Greg Cox and "Marooned" by Christie Golden.
But honestly, there are better books which could be used for an animated Voyager movie, such as "The Black Shore" by Greg Cox and "Marooned" by Christie Golden.
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