No he was just comparing him with what he had in his eyesight: Cupcake!He must have been popped like 30 percocet and about a liter of vodka before talking to Kirk.

No he was just comparing him with what he had in his eyesight: Cupcake!He must have been popped like 30 percocet and about a liter of vodka before talking to Kirk.
Captain Pike: "You must the only genius-level repeat offender around here..."
My good friend and next-door neighbor growing up was an official "genius" (ne has an IQ of somewhere around 150 to 160 IIRC). However, there were times as a teenager that you would barely guess that this kid was a genius, let alone someone who would succeed in life. He didn't start fights at bars like young Kirk did, but he (we) did some pretty stupid things as teenagers.pine's kirk was described as being genuis level and who finished
the academy in three years.
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No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
He has long since matured and is now a tenured math professor at a major university and has published papers on advanced mathmatics that are respected by his peers (which I have read online and have no idea what the hell he is talking about).
So if Pike says Kirk is a genius, then it is established that Kirk is a genius...I don't need to see proof (although the rest of the film establishes that Kirk's intelligence is very high).
kirk prime was a genious and master of warfare. kirk jr. Is more of a genious slacker & underachiever that went to frat parties during enrollment. Different childhood & upbringing.
pine's kirk was described as being genuis level and who finished
the academy in three years.
![]()
No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
pine's kirk was described as being genuis level and who finished
the academy in three years.
![]()
No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
This is a very illogical statement, the guy got top in his class beating every aptitude score and he still isnt' a genius by your definition? "Absolutely not"? Are you saying anyone could do that?
What does he have to do, stand on one leg and sing dixieland while strumming a banjo made of chicken legs? How would you have him prove to you that he was a genius, then?![]()
I recall Kirk putting together seemingly unrelated pieces of information to arrive at a conclusion that saves the ship and the Federation. That might take some smarts.
No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
This is a very illogical statement, the guy got top in his class beating every aptitude score and he still isnt' a genius by your definition? "Absolutely not"? Are you saying anyone could do that?
What does he have to do, stand on one leg and sing dixieland while strumming a banjo made of chicken legs? How would you have him prove to you that he was a genius, then?![]()
no, he has to be 78, bald, wear a toupee, weigh about 250 pounds, and breed horses.![]()
pine's kirk was described as being genuis level and who finished
the academy in three years.
![]()
No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
This is a very illogical statement, the guy got top in his class beating every aptitude score and he still isnt' a genius by your definition? "Absolutely not"? Are you saying anyone could do that?
What does he have to do, stand on one leg and sing dixieland while strumming a banjo made of chicken legs? How would you have him prove to you that he was a genius, then?![]()
No matter....Kirk Jr. hardly came off as being a genius...I know he graduated in 3yrs...had the nohow and really the connections to beat the test...but I still didn't get genius...absolutely not.
This is a very illogical statement, the guy got top in his class beating every aptitude score and he still isnt' a genius by your definition? "Absolutely not"? Are you saying anyone could do that?
What does he have to do, stand on one leg and sing dixieland while strumming a banjo made of chicken legs? How would you have him prove to you that he was a genius, then?![]()
no, he has to be 78, bald, wear a toupee, weigh about 250 pounds, and breed horses.![]()
I recall Kirk putting together seemingly unrelated pieces of information to arrive at a conclusion that saves the ship and the Federation. That might take some smarts.
...Maybe one scene where he is in fact acting like a genius would of helped..
I recall Kirk putting together seemingly unrelated pieces of information to arrive at a conclusion that saves the ship and the Federation. That might take some smarts.
That's clarivoyance ...not genius....
I dont recall Kirk testing that high on his ESPer levels, so I'm sticking with genius.
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