Bye Bye Glenn

[Robert Maxwell]

I only listen to Michael Savage.

I accidentally tuned into his radio show once (I was just scanning and heard someone going off on a rant so I stopped to listen) and found out this crazy, uninformed blowhard was the infamous Michael Savage. I'm convinced people only listen to him because he's crazy enough to be entertaining, not because they agree with anything he says.

 

[Robert D. Robot]

In earlier times people needed to visit a circus to see a freak show in order to satisfy their fascination for observing outrageous behavior. Now we can simply turn on our radios and get it from the comfort of an easy chair or a car during drive time.

I actually WANT to hear views that are different from mine, but I prefer to hear a reasonable discussion or debate by informed individuals, not the rants and raves of "entertainers" who are are not serious about presenting facts as much as they want to tell misleading half-truths and outright lies to whip up and scare their audience. I want to possibly learn something, not listen to efforts to reinforce goofy false fears and beliefs!

 

[bigdaddy]

About damn time he gets the boot (you finally woke up to the reality of Glenn Beck, Fox News management!) but he's still contracted with Fox so it won't be long before he’s back with another round of crazy nonsensical rants & convoluted ideas through another medium.....sadly.

The media and world of politics would be much better off without the likes of Beck, Limbaugh & Olbermann (will probably be picked up by another network and doing the same old thing again soon).

Maniarek.

Olberman has already signed on with a new network that Al Gore launched and is in about 60 homes.

 

[Captain Craig]

MSNBC got rid of Olberman who was every bit as left wing looney as Beck was right wing.

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

@ Captain Craig: I'm sorry, but I am not privy to the details of why the contract between MSNBC and Keith Olbermann was ended. Are you? Do you know any details, that you are free to divulge to the rest of us? Or is your assertion, that "MSNBC got rid of Olberman" [sic], merely an unsubstantiated and speculative rumor?

He's gone no need to quibble over the details. He was gotten rid of, like Beck, pick your reason. If MNSBC wanted to hold onto him they would've found a way.

MSNBC got rid of Olberman who was every bit as left wing looney as Beck was right wing.

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

In your opinion.
There fixed that for you.
Many see Olberman as being just as fanatical minus the chalkboard. That you don't would only highlight your bias.


This sudden defense of Olberman only demonstrates how solidly to the left many here slant. You can't even see it. Beck was too right, Olberman too left. It is what it is. Sorry.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

@ Captain Craig: I'm sorry, but I am not privy to the details of why the contract between MSNBC and Keith Olbermann was ended. Are you? Do you know any details, that you are free to divulge to the rest of us? Or is your assertion, that "MSNBC got rid of Olberman" [sic], merely an unsubstantiated and speculative rumor?

He's gone no need to quibble over the details. He was gotten rid of, like Beck, pick your reason. If MNSBC wanted to hold onto him they would've found a way.

MSNBC got rid of Olberman who was every bit as left wing looney as Beck was right wing.

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

In your opinion.
There fixed that for you.
Many see Olberman as being just as fanatical minus the chalkboard. That you don't would only highlight your bias.


This sudden defense of Olberman only demonstrates how solidly to the left many here slant. You can't even see it. Beck was too right, Olberman too left. It is what it is. Sorry.

You have accused MSNBC of an action, getting rid of Keith Olbermann, and as far as I can tell, you have no way to substantiate that accusation. I can think of several reasons why MSNBC and Keith might part ways, without it being even remotely the case that MSNBC got rid of him. However, since I have no way to substantiate any of them, I cannot justify uttering them.

Furthermore, if you believe that I am defending Keith, then you are more than mistaken.

 

[KJbushway]

MSNBC got rid of him.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/why-keith-olbermann-is-out-at-msnbc/

 

[bigdaddy]

That looks like a reliable source.

Can we get back to what this topic is supposed to be about? Making fun of Beck!

 

[Satyrquaze]

Jon Stewart really needs to retire the whole Glenn Beck parody thing, it was funny the first time but is just sad now.

I think that was him retiring it.

Course Glenn still has a job for a little while longer. So we can be rest assured that he will continue to spout crazy bullshit. So long as he does Stewart will have a neverending font of hypocricy to draw from for his show.

 

[KJbushway]

That looks like a reliable source.

Can we get back to what this topic is supposed to be about? Making fun of Beck!

The first website that came up. What can I say.
I am actually giving links now.

 

[Roshi]

What will happen to the blackboards????

 

[KJbushway]

?

 

[Rush Limborg]

I just heard while watching CNN that Fox News is getting rid of Glenn Beck. Is this true? can I flip through the channels and not hear the alien voice of his, talking about stuff he doesn't understand.

I'd hate to burst everyone's bubble, but...

All that's going on is that Glenn's 5PM show is coming to a close by this fall.

He's not leaving Fox, per se. He'll still be a commentator, and he said he'll do John-Stossel-like specials, etc.

Thought you'd like to know.

 

[bigdaddy]

Still won't have to see him lie to American idiots for an hour every day.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

MSNBC got rid of him.
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/why-keith-olbermann-is-out-at-msnbc/

That looks like a reliable source.

Actually, the linked to tabloid does not say that MSNBC got rid of him. It claims that Keith's bosses planned for the possibility of firing him, and that firing him was discussed. It goes on to say that Comcast definitely did not order his firing. Everything else there is a just a Rorschach inkblot in which you can read whatever you want to. So, no, it does not say that MSNBC got rid of him. It merely insinuates that, a hair's width short of slander. Next.

Can we get back to what this topic is supposed to be about? Making fun of Beck!

Yes, I've made my point.

I'll wave bye bye to Glenn Beck. But when his show closes on Faux, I'm afraid it won't be the last time I hear of him spewing filth out people's speakers.

 

[Davros]

MSNBC got rid of Olberman who was every bit as left wing looney as Beck was right wing.

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

@ Captain Craig: I'm sorry, but I am not privy to the details of why the contract between MSNBC and Keith Olbermann was ended. Are you? Do you know any details, that you are free to divulge to the rest of us? Or is your assertion, that "MSNBC got rid of Olberman" [sic], merely an unsubstantiated and speculative rumor?

My statements were about how crazy he was compared to Beck. Not anything to do with why he is no longer a MSNBC.

 

[CorporalCaptain]

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

My statements were about how crazy he was compared to Beck. Not anything to do with why he is no longer a MSNBC.

I believe all your points here are correct. I should have said that I agreed with you, when I quoted you earlier.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

MSNBC got rid of Olberman who was every bit as left wing looney as Beck was right wing.

Olberman was never as crazy as Beck. It's ridiculous to even try and argue that as fact.

In your opinion.
There fixed that for you.
Many see Olberman as being just as fanatical minus the chalkboard. That you don't would only highlight your bias.

This sudden defense of Olberman only demonstrates how solidly to the left many here slant. You can't even see it. Beck was too right, Olberman too left. It is what it is. Sorry.

I like how you take pains to point out that his comments are his opinion, then frame your own comments as if they were indisputable facts twice in the same post.

Also, you're conflating two separate issues. The one that is in dispute here is whether Keith Olbermann is as crazy and fanatical as Glenn Beck. A left-wing person like myself can consider Olbermann occasionally too extreme in his rhetoric (though I almost always agree with the issues he advocates in favor of) for the Left yet still consider him not even in the same ballpark, much less planet, as a nutter like Beck with no hypocrisy on my part whatsoever.

Also, Olbermann's audience doesn't seem to include their own subset of crazy people who act on the rhetoric of the host. When Olbermann makes the rare Nazi analogy (which he did far less often than Beck, who sees Nazis and communists around every corner), all the people in his audience seem to get the point that it's just an analogy made for effect and that Senator John Smith(R) is not really setting up death camps and subverting freedom. Some of Beck's audience seem to genuinely believe the rhetoric and act on it, such as Byron Williams' plot against the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, Richard Poplawski's shooting of three Pittsburgh police officers, the death threats against Sen. Patty Murray, and the threats made against members of the Illinois League of Women Voters. So while it's wrong for Olbermann to use hyperbolic Nazi rhetoric as well, the difference lies in the fact that he's not knowingly riling up an ignorant and reactionary subset of his audience who takes the hyperbole seriously and feels the need to resort to violence to correct it.

Now as far as the question of who is crazier and more fanatical, that's subjective obviously. About the only way you and I on the outside can judge is to perhaps present a collection of their statements which can be fact-checked and supported or debunked. That's pretty tedious, but I'll do it if you put up your own. I have absolutely no doubt on Olbermann coming out on top by a mile in terms of factual commentary over Mr. "Wisconsin Union Protests are Part of the Arab Uprising and an Attempt to Establish a Caliphate" Beck.

 

[Captain Craig]

^^^^
Your fallacy is that you seem to think I care enough about Glen Beck to defend him.

I'm fine they are both gone, both were often too many steps over the line. Regardless of where the line of "too far" was for each side(your implying Glen went waaay over it and Olberman not so much) is irrelevant to me. The people who write the checks said goodbye.

 

[Locutus of Bored]

^^^^
Your fallacy is that you seem to think I care enough about Glen Beck to defend him.

No, it's quite obvious you don't like him either. I was simply challenging your, IMO, erroneous comparison, as we tend to do in discussion forums.

I'm fine they are both gone, both were often too many steps over the line. Regardless of where the line of "too far" was for each side(your implying Glen went waaay over it and Olberman not so much) is irrelevant to me. The people who write the checks said goodbye.

That's fine. I've got no dispute with that part.

 

[23skidoo]

Locutus summed it up in more detail, but I'll just echo that the original argument was whether Olbermann was as crazy as Beck, and the thing is he isn't. What he does is call people idiots - often by citing well-substantiated facts (disputed, always, by those with an opposite agenda, but all those Worst Persons segments usually had him citing some chapter and verse). I never once saw him come out and make statements regarding conspiracies and so-and-so is out to kill us all and "America as we know it no longer exists" which is a chestnut Beck came out with. I remember hearing Olbermann say outright that Palin was an idiot. Ruffled quite a few feathers he did, and I'm sure he ruffled the wrong ones because that's why he got the boot (that and he donated money when he shouldn't have).

There's a long gap between what Olbermann's shtick was and what Beck's is. Beck is trying to establish a politics-based religion, and it could be argued that he's succeeding. That's far scarier than a guy ranting about what the right - or, to be fair, what Obama - did wrong on a particular day. We've also had accusations of acts of threatened violence being allegedly inspired by Beck's statements. I haven't heard of any equivalent relating to Olbermann to date.

And before anyone defaults to the "it's just a leftie defending KO" argument, I personally think both the right and the left are nuts (politically). I'm a political agnostic.

Alex