Burn Notice: "Comrades" 7/31 - Grading & Discussion
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I also give it above average. Michael undercover and under pressure is always interesting. It was good to see LOST's Mikhail (aka Patchy) is finding work elsewhere.
I also liked seeing more of Sam. More Bruce is never a bad thing.
I also liked seeing more of Sam. More Bruce is never a bad thing.
Gave it an above average. Strangely enough I ended up feeling bad for Ivan. I guess they didn't do a very good job of connecting Ivan to the evil that he was doing. We're told that he's a human smuggler, and we can assume that he's killed previous people he's smuggled, but really I didn't think about that till the end when they say his body was found in a dumpster.
They describe him as the pick up guy for a larger organization, and that he slapped the one sister around. We see that he's loyal and somewhat honorable in that bad guy kind of way. He spends several days being psychologically tortured, then sent to his own boss to be slaughtered. That boss, the real bad guy, gets to relocate up north and continue his nefarious operations. I dunno, seems kind of a crappy way to end things. As bad as the guy was, it seems like he really got the short end of the stick there.
This is also a problem I had with the last episode. Being a con-man is pretty shitty. But is it shitty enough to be murdered over like they imply at the end? I mean, the guy is basically a car salesman for a con operation who dupes an idiot who was looking to make some money illegally. Does he really deserve to get murdered?
I'm enjoying the show, but I hope they get the writing a little tighter and we get more variety in the stories.
They describe him as the pick up guy for a larger organization, and that he slapped the one sister around. We see that he's loyal and somewhat honorable in that bad guy kind of way. He spends several days being psychologically tortured, then sent to his own boss to be slaughtered. That boss, the real bad guy, gets to relocate up north and continue his nefarious operations. I dunno, seems kind of a crappy way to end things. As bad as the guy was, it seems like he really got the short end of the stick there.
This is also a problem I had with the last episode. Being a con-man is pretty shitty. But is it shitty enough to be murdered over like they imply at the end? I mean, the guy is basically a car salesman for a con operation who dupes an idiot who was looking to make some money illegally. Does he really deserve to get murdered?
I'm enjoying the show, but I hope they get the writing a little tighter and we get more variety in the stories.
^Well, considering that he casually described the plan to kill all the kills if they got caught, and that he and his buddies would kill any girl whose family couldn't pay---I don't feel all that sorry for Ivan. His prison tats revealed him to be a thief and a murderer, so I wouldn't shed any tears for him.
And for the episode about the con-man---all he did was con a con-man. He didn't set the guy up to get murdered; the guy associated with thieves and killers, and they turned on him. If you associate with criminals, bad things will happen to you. All Michael did was beat him at his own game and leave him to face the consequences.
And for the episode about the con-man---all he did was con a con-man. He didn't set the guy up to get murdered; the guy associated with thieves and killers, and they turned on him. If you associate with criminals, bad things will happen to you. All Michael did was beat him at his own game and leave him to face the consequences.
He does look like he's lost a few pounds--plus, they are dressing him a little better, too.
I giuess the Producers have realized how much people love Bruce and decided to make him less of a slovenly loser.
This is about the third episode I've really gotten hooked. Gotta go see if the first seasons out on dvd yet.
I really wish they'd write out the mother though. I know they need to humanize the guy, but really. I mentally hear the old needle drug across a record sound whenever she shows up.
This is about the third episode I've really gotten hooked. Gotta go see if the first seasons out on dvd yet.
I really wish they'd write out the mother though. I know they need to humanize the guy, but really. I mentally hear the old needle drug across a record sound whenever she shows up.
It's out on DVD already.
I don't mind "Mom" in small doses. It's a good counter-point to Michael's super-cool image.
I don't mind "Mom" in small doses. It's a good counter-point to Michael's super-cool image.
I've bee holding on to the belief that his mom is somehow responsible for the burn... I can just feel it. She must have contacted his superiors and arranged it so he could come home and patch things up with the family and soften his edges. In the end he'll just stay in Miami near his family helping people week after week... Who knows!
My biggest fear for the show
I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a huge twist as far as the burn notice went. Like maybe they just did it because they felt like it, and it wasn't connected to some other twist of secret relationship or conspiracy or something. But I guess that would be kind of anticlimactic to the whole arcing mythology of the show. Once he finds out, what can he do to keep the show going?
is that his dad turns up alive, and that he's somehow involved with the Burn. Maybe they're using Michael to get to his dad, who turns out to be some kind of legendary super spy that "retired" or had amnesia during the time he was making a family. Or maybe under some kind of super deep cover or something. Or even if his dad turns out to be some kind of loser tramp like his brother, and just got in way over his head. I'd like his dad to stay dead or gone, or whatever it is they say in the show.
I wouldn't mind if there wasn't a huge twist as far as the burn notice went. Like maybe they just did it because they felt like it, and it wasn't connected to some other twist of secret relationship or conspiracy or something. But I guess that would be kind of anticlimactic to the whole arcing mythology of the show. Once he finds out, what can he do to keep the show going?
I really like this show and have seen every ep. However, I just feel like the plots are already becoming too similar. Helping the russian sister this week was super similar to another ep I can't think of off the top of my head. I think it was cubans who they paid to take over, and then extorted money from the family or something. Anyway.
Also, I agree that Patchy from Lost was too sympathetic. I know his character probably deserved to die many times over but the way our main characters went straight to torture was a bit much in combination with us loving Patchy from Lost. I guess I'd call it bad casting, even though I liked seeing the guy!
Also, I agree that Patchy from Lost was too sympathetic. I know his character probably deserved to die many times over but the way our main characters went straight to torture was a bit much in combination with us loving Patchy from Lost. I guess I'd call it bad casting, even though I liked seeing the guy!
Yeah--I think finding out too much would ruin the show. It's better to leave a few things unanswered, just like life.
I think that they will indeed have to mix up the plots a bit more. Being stuck as an enforcer or con man will quickly run dry. They may have to mix in a bit more spy-type activities to keep things hopping.
I can't wait to see how they use Michael Shanks as the competitor. That should be a hoot!
I think that they will indeed have to mix up the plots a bit more. Being stuck as an enforcer or con man will quickly run dry. They may have to mix in a bit more spy-type activities to keep things hopping.
I can't wait to see how they use Michael Shanks as the competitor. That should be a hoot!
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