I found this analysis of the Trek Feature film franchise interesting - it's all about the numbers and light of being subjective of the subject::
The one BIG bomb: ST: NEM
The one BIG bomb: ST: NEM
Probably Box Office Mojo, who list that figure of $35 million.The video is basing this on figures from The Numbers, and in the description, he admits not having the prints & marketing budgets, so it's really impossible to know how profitable any of those films are, especially where international sales are concerned, where the distribution costs vary by territory.
I dunno where The Numbers gets that $35 mil figure for the TMP budget. That seems low.
It came out December of that year, so if that is true, then it actually made a lot of money quickly.TMP was the 4th highest grossing movie of 1979
No, because theaters keep a cut, the studio needs to recoup its marketing budget on top of the film budget for what the real cost to the studio is—which is often paid for with loans that have interest charges—and there may be profit participation (points) for stakeholders that have to be paid out. That's why it's considered normal that a movie isn't technically profitable until it's made 2 to 3 times its budget.I'm a bit confused by the multiplier analysis. How is a number of 2 a break-even film? Isn't al multiplier of 1 "break-even?" Would not "2" that not mean it make back all the money it cost to make, then that much over again?
So for example, if a movie took 10 million to make, then had a multiplier of 2, would not that mean it made 20 million, leaving the company with 10 million profit?
Avatar Fire and Ash came out in December of 2025 - it will not be counted as one of the highest grossing movies of 2026 - rather, it will be one of the highest grossing movies of 2025.It came out December of that year, so if that is true, then it actually made a lot of money quickly.
ouchSTNEM: 74th

I agree, that's a better way to look at it.Fun breakdown — thanks for pulling the numbers together. One small stats nuance that’s worth flagging, though.
When you average multipliers directly, each film gets equal weight, even though the budgets vary a lot. Since multipliers are ratios, the more standard way to compare eras is to weight by budget — i.e., total gross ÷ total budget for each era.
If you do it that way, the picture shifts a bit:
• TOS films: ~3.99× (rather than 4.82×)
• TNG films: ~2.24×
• Kelvin films: ~2.30×
The overall trend is still there, but Wrath of Khan’s unusually low budget pulls the unweighted TOS average up more than it probably should.
Also worth noting on the “break-even” point: a ~2.3–2.4× box office multiple likely meant different things in different eras. Marketing and distribution costs were much lower relative to budget in the TOS era than they were post-2000, so later films generally needed higher multiples to end up in the same place financially.
None of this negates the popularity of the earlier films — it just tightens the comparison a bit.
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