Bruce Wayne vs. Tony Stark (when was the last time this came up?)

[Admiral_Young]

I shouldn't be surprised this thread keeps continuing. Ahem, Anwar have you been reading Batman, Inc? It's exactly about Bruce widening his horizons. As for why Batman doesn't kill Joker...I guess you haven't paid attention to the last twenty or so years worth of Batman comics: Batman Does Not Kill. They've done stories were Bruce has seriously contemplated killing Joker but ultimately chooses not to. I laugh at building a better cell comment. Arkham Aslyum has been continuously upgraded over the years to essentially be inescapable and yet rouges continue to do so. There was an issue of Gotham City Sirens recently where Harley was able to break into the Aslyum.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Simple, he could clean up Gotham and then decide to be a worldwide hero who fights crime in and out of the States.

And he could always just cripple Joker, or at least build a better cell than Arkham.

Then again, better question is why no one else has just thought of killing Joker or why Gordon hasn't put a "Wanted: Dead" moniker on him.

Anyways, Stark and Wayne would probably just fight to a standstill before realizing they couldn't really beat the other.

You don't really get comics do you?

Batman fights crime in Gotham City. ( but will go where the trail leads)

Maiming and crippling is what villains do.

Villains will always escape.

Gordon is a honest moral cop, he doesn't issue death warrants.

 

[TiberiusMaximus]

It's called Joker Immunity. Batman does not kill, and the Joker does not die.

Spoiler: Really?

And did the Joker really kill The Doctor? I wasn't aware there had been a crossover like that.

 

[Leroy]

If the Bat can take on Freeze, Bane, and all the whack-jobs of Arkham, he can handle Iron Man no problem.

This "Spiderman vs. Firelord" argument doesn't work.

By this line of thinking A hurt B therefore A must be more powerful than B. Using this line of reasoning then, a Japanese dive-bomber circa 1941 has more firepower than a battleship. A grenade could mess up a Japanese dive-bomber, so the grenade must be more powerful than the battleship!

Batman to Iron Man? It would be fun to watch, but at the end of the day Batman is more dedicated and capable. Batman would find a way to disable Iron Man's suit and that would be it.

Such a cop out on so many levels this doesn't just apply to Iron Man having his suit shut down either it also applies to any character having their abilities and or powers somehow nullified by Batman, and then Batman walking over and punching out his opponent. Silver Surfer, Galactus, the Beyonder, Dr. Fate, Dr. Strange, No problem!

Wait I though Stark didn't have that suit anymore.

His new armor is stored entirely inside his bones (not realistic I know but it's a comic book) like taking the Extremis concept to the next level while still keeping him human.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Wait I though Stark didn't have that suit anymore.

His new armor is stored entirely inside his bones (not realistic I know but it's a comic book) like taking the Extremis concept to the next level while still keeping him human.

What the what???

 

[Anwar]

Sounds like they've turned Stark technorganic. He isn't human anymore.

Batman has stated that his code against killing doesn't extend to non-humans, and he seems somewhat racist against aliens (Clark and J'Onn being exceptions). Maybe he's be more willing to terminate a non-human Stark?

 

[Satyrquaze]

Nah. Stark is still strickly- speaking human... even if he does qualify as a cyborg based on the extremis armor.

 

[Admiral2]

Which brings us right back to "Tony ain't going up against some nut dressed like a bat without his suit"...most likely the one in the briefcase, and Tony in the suit wins.

If Stark uses the Extremis or 'Bleeding Edge' armor he doesn't need a briefcase he can call the armor to him cybernetically in the current armor's case it's all stored inside his bones. (Though Batman has a way to prevent this I'm sure ) and even if Stark was to suit up in his latest model Batman would still use a gadget to shut it off then walk up and clobber him.

Batman needs to know the technology to find a counter to it. I'm pretty sure even Wayne Industries technology can't reach across dimensions to hack Stark Enterprises and Shield databases. I'm thinking Bats is out of luck on the shut-off gadget in this instance.

 

[Satyrquaze]

A powerful enough EMP will take out most modern tech.

Batman has access to Thanagarian, Rannian, and New Gods tech through the JLA.

 

[Admiral_Young]

As I stated before Oracle and Tim could probably find a way to shut down Stark's suit. If Norman Osborn can shut down Tony's mind then Bruce Wayne can do the same thing.

 

[Anwar]

But Norman Osborn is to bio-engineering what Stark is to industrial engineering. You can't just say "Because Norman did it anyone can", Norman is also a super-genius of his field (even before he was augmented by the Goblin formula). He's also a great industrial engineer (not as good as Stark though).

Stark's tech is capable of fighting off the weaponry of civilizations like the Skrulls and Kree, two of the oldest civs out there. Have we ever seen Batman hack a Mother Box?

 

[Satyrquaze]

Have we ever seen Batman hack a Mother Box?

Batman doesn't need to hack a Mother Box, they are generally pretty helpful by design.

EDIT: The picture is from me initally mis-reading your question. I thought you asked if we've seen Batman *with* a Mother-Box.

 

[Admiral_Young]

@Anwar I mentioned two people who are experts at hacking in the DCU...Oracle damn near shut down the entire internet during Final Crisis. While Tim is not on her scale, he's still damn good with computers and hacking. While Bruce may not be the inventor that Tony and Norman are I think you insult his intelligence along with his strategic mind by claiming he wouldn't be able to figure out the technology.

 

[Leroy]

If Norman Osborn can shut down Tony's mind then Bruce Wayne can do the same thing.

When did this happen? I remember some Iron Man issues a while back where Tony wiped his own memory.

 

[Admiral_Young]

It was referenced in the Point. One Issue of "Invincible Iron Man".

 

[Anwar]

@Anwar I mentioned two people who are experts at hacking in the DCU...Oracle damn near shut down the entire internet during Final Crisis. While Tim is not on her scale, he's still damn good with computers and hacking. While Bruce may not be the inventor that Tony and Norman are I think you insult his intelligence along with his strategic mind by claiming he wouldn't be able to figure out the technology.

Even if they did try that approach, it would become a sort of arms race between them over hacking and countering the hacking. Stark has done his fair share of that, in fact he did manage to have all traces of his leaked technology removed from every database on the planet once. He did it first, before any of the Bat-folks did, in "Armor Wars".

And I'll respect Batman's intelligence more when he creates technology that simply didn't exist. Until then he's just DC's Mary Sue (most of the Bat-characters fall under that).

 

[Admiral_Young]

That's not Batman's preview though. Kind of an ignorant take if you ask me. Seems you're pretty biased towards DC anyway.

 

[Myasishchev]

As distinct from the real "For the Man Who Has Everything," where Batman's trainee saved everyone.

Not even the good trainee. But the one which let's be honest, rates third of the three.

Hell, five of five.