Bruce Wayne vs. Tony Stark (when was the last time this came up?)
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An episode of the new Avengers cartoon, had Captain America commenting on on Stark's reliance on technology which admitted did save the day.
Yep the Civil War one shot I referenced previously paid homage to that issue.
Tony Stark would win a drinking competition against Bruce Wayne, no problem.
Indeed, considering Bruce doesn't drink 
To everyone saying Ironman has the advantage in the suit....
Didn't Batman take out an OMAC or two on his own and aren't they better equiped then Ironman. Plus he managed to hold his own against an beat and AMAZO, a striped down version perhaps but still packing some serious super powered heat, and I believe he took it out without some special gadget.
Didn't Batman take out an OMAC or two on his own and aren't they better equiped then Ironman. Plus he managed to hold his own against an beat and AMAZO, a striped down version perhaps but still packing some serious super powered heat, and I believe he took it out without some special gadget.
Aren't there only a couple of people here who have said Tony has an advantage with a suit? Yes Bruce has taken out OMACS and Amazo. He's had experience against advance robotics in the past. Tony would be a challenge but the contest would be short.
Well a belt full of gadgets was Batman schitck for a long time before he became the Psycho Ninja version. Yeah, it also became a bit of a joke (Bat anti shark repelent). He's alway has more than a grapelling hook and batarangs.(or batshurikins) So its possible that he could have a device or a combination of devices to take out an armored foe like Iron Man.
I always liked the way that the DC/Marvel crossovers handled Batman and Captain America. Here's two people who are evenly matched, even though it took the Super-Soldier serum to bring Steve Rogers up to Bruce Wayne's level. Their battle would be a long slog, and eventually the two would realize there's no reason for the battle, nor any reason to continue.
I don't think Batman and Iron Man would be anything like that.
The first round would go to Iron Man. I have no doubt of that. Batman's attacks would largely be directed at sizing up Iron Man's suit and its capabilities, and Iron Man would emerge the victor.
The second round, though, would be much like Batman's battle with Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. The Batman who had contingency plans to take down everyone in the Justice League would formulate a plan to take down Tony Stark. Iron Man would have to run a gauntlet, and at the end would be Batman. Bruce may be in his regular suit just to make Tony overly cocky, or he may be in one of his high-tech suits (such as his Predator hunting gear, or the Iron Man-esque suit from Batman: The Return last year) to level the playing field. I tend to think, though, that Bruce would be wearing his regular suit, and his contingency plan would involve turning the Iron Man suit against its occupant, with the finale of the battle being Tony Stark trapped inside a paralyzed suit.
Tony would win the first battle, but he would lose the overall war.
Since I've addressed two of the big three of the Avengers, why not address the third?
Bruce Wayne versus Thor.
I don't care how long Bruce has to prepare. Thor could beat the living shit out of Bruce. There's an early JMS issue of Thor where Iron Man gets beat to a bloody pulp by Thor, and Thor says, basically, "Don't bother building a better suit, Tony. I've been holding back in this fight." Even if Bruce could separate Thor from Mjolnir, Bruce would never be able to lift it.
On the other hand, Bruce did take down Darkseid with the Archetypal Bullet, and he defeated Darkseid's plan to turn him into a chronal weapon, so maybe Bruce could outthink and outfox Thor.
I just don't find it likely.
I don't think Batman and Iron Man would be anything like that.
The first round would go to Iron Man. I have no doubt of that. Batman's attacks would largely be directed at sizing up Iron Man's suit and its capabilities, and Iron Man would emerge the victor.
The second round, though, would be much like Batman's battle with Superman in The Dark Knight Returns. The Batman who had contingency plans to take down everyone in the Justice League would formulate a plan to take down Tony Stark. Iron Man would have to run a gauntlet, and at the end would be Batman. Bruce may be in his regular suit just to make Tony overly cocky, or he may be in one of his high-tech suits (such as his Predator hunting gear, or the Iron Man-esque suit from Batman: The Return last year) to level the playing field. I tend to think, though, that Bruce would be wearing his regular suit, and his contingency plan would involve turning the Iron Man suit against its occupant, with the finale of the battle being Tony Stark trapped inside a paralyzed suit.
Tony would win the first battle, but he would lose the overall war.
Since I've addressed two of the big three of the Avengers, why not address the third?
Bruce Wayne versus Thor.
I don't care how long Bruce has to prepare. Thor could beat the living shit out of Bruce. There's an early JMS issue of Thor where Iron Man gets beat to a bloody pulp by Thor, and Thor says, basically, "Don't bother building a better suit, Tony. I've been holding back in this fight." Even if Bruce could separate Thor from Mjolnir, Bruce would never be able to lift it.
On the other hand, Bruce did take down Darkseid with the Archetypal Bullet, and he defeated Darkseid's plan to turn him into a chronal weapon, so maybe Bruce could outthink and outfox Thor.
I just don't find it likely.
Cap does not have super strength and agility and durability. He is at the peak of human strength and agility and durability. Something Wayne and others achived through training ( and probably genetics) and not a special formula.
Uh-huh. Bruce isn't just a man. Superman has called Bruce the most dangerous man on the planet for a reason. He maybe just a man but his combat training and knowledge would put him on par with Captain America. Remember, Bruce has beaten genetically enhanced humans before like Bane and monsters like Solomon Grundy and Killer Croc. Now Cap does have superior strength and matches Bruce's combat experience and then sum...which is why I agree that a fight between them would either be a stalemate or Bruce would calculate the odds of him being victorious over someone who can fight just as dirty as he can would be slim and not bother to engage Steve.
I like Allyn's fight analysis on Tony.
I like Allyn's fight analysis on Tony.
Iron Man.
A lot of hay has been made here about how good Batman/Bruce is at hand to hand fighting, but what everybody who says that seems to forget is that Tony Stark isn't stupid, so he's not going to get into a position where Batman's martial arts prowess works for him. He'll just hover in his suit and fire off repulsors, unibeams and minirockets until Bats gets tired of dodging. Then Shell-head'll drop a car on him.
A lot of hay has been made here about how good Batman/Bruce is at hand to hand fighting, but what everybody who says that seems to forget is that Tony Stark isn't stupid, so he's not going to get into a position where Batman's martial arts prowess works for him. He'll just hover in his suit and fire off repulsors, unibeams and minirockets until Bats gets tired of dodging. Then Shell-head'll drop a car on him.
Indeed. As much as everyone jokes that Batman prepares for everything, there is a reason why he does so...he's smart. He's arguably one of the smartest men in the DCU. Not maybe on par with Tony but he's not an idiot. Are we maybe giving Bruce too much credit? Maybe. Tony's no slouch but he's still not in Batman's class combat wise. If Tony is not in his suit, he will get owned by Bruce on a straight mano et mano fight.
If he was bulletproof he wouldn't need the shield.
The Super Soldier formula transformed a scrawny 90 lbs weakling Steve Rogers into a perfect specimen of humanity not a superhuman.
No. Steve Rogers was killed by a bullet so he's not invulnerable. The serum simply increases his strength, speed, mobility, etc. I think Ultimate Captain America has super-intelligence but I could be wrong about that. Cap's not invulnerable though. There's a reason why he has a shield composed of adamantium and vibrainum.
