Bruce Wayne vs. Tony Stark (when was the last time this came up?)

[infinix]

Anything goes. Both in their prime, but living the super hero alter ego.

If we take away the suits and the gadgets, I think Bruce Wayne kills Tony Starks in a bare knuckles fight, no question.

If we allow suits, gadgets and everything else, its gets more complicated. Since Iron Man has a little bit of an upper hand here, I'll allow Bruce to wear the suite from Batman Beyond.

Both with suits and gadgets, going head to head for three rounds with one month rest time between the contests. Who will win best two out of three?

 

[Snaploud]

Stark doesn't stand a chance (preparation or no preparation). Bruce doesn't need the Batman Beyond suit.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Bruce doesn't need any suits or gadgets against Tony. Tony has been trained in some hand to hand combat by Captain America as revealed in one of the Civil War one shots but obviously not to the extent that Bruce has been, or with the varied disciplines that Bruce knows. Bruce wins, no contest.

 

[infinix]

When I brought up suites, I thought it was obvious that both the Batman Suit and the Iron Man suit are in play here.

Seems like people are comparing only physical strength and abilities. Should I have explicitly said Batman vs. Iron Man?

 

[Admiral_Young]

It doesn't matter if they're wearing suits or not. Tony just doesn't have the fighting prowess that Bruce does. He simply doesn't. This costs him any advantage he might have with the suit. Bruce would figure out that Tony is vulnerable to EMP pulses and figure out a gadget to disable the suit. Or if need be he'd have Oracle or Tim hack into the suit and disable it.

 

[Temis the Vorta]

Tony is much, much sexier.

Which is the contest he would care about winning.

 

[Admiral_Young]

Actually considering both of their egos...Bruce might not think Tony worth his time, he can be an arrogant sob at times lol.

 

[Samurai8472]

No contest. Bruce trained to take on a hundred men without a suit. Tony Stark wouldn't even be able to take on five without a suit.

 

[Snaploud]

Actually considering both of their egos...Bruce might not think Tony worth his time, he can be an arrogant sob at times lol.

Yeah, the first "fight" would probably involved Bruce just pushing a button on his belt (triggering an EMP and leaving Stark paralyzed) and walking away muttering about idiots in toy suits...The second fight might be more interesting (after Stark works up a defense against EMP).

 

[Roshi]

Batman, given time to prepare...

 

[Skywalker]

Bruce could just buy Stark Industries and confiscate all of Tony's toys.

 

[Snaploud]

Bruce could just buy Stark Industries and confiscate all of Tony's toys.

He would probably offer Tony the chance to stay on as Alfred's assistant. Alfred could always use help with gadget maintenance.

 

[Checkmate]

I don't know, I don't think it's that simple.

Yes, Batman is a master tactician and hand-to-hand combatant, but Iron Man is no slouch in either of those fields. He also easily beats Batman in the genius arena, especially when it comes to gadgets and improvising attacks. I mean, sure, Batman doesn't believe in using firearms, but if he had access to repulsor beam technology and the like, why wouldn't he take advantage of that, especially for purposes of flight and the like?

After an initial bout where both of them succeed in sizing the other up, I'd have to say the advantage goes to Iron Man. Batman can't just whip out some kryptonite against him mid-fight to compensate for the super strength, speed, invulnerability, or various weapon systems that Iron Man has at his disposal. And it's kind of silly to assume that Stark hasn't made his suit EMP proof.

The only real chance Batman would have is attacking Tony Stark's weaknesses. Namely his womanizing and alcoholic lifestyle. But that wasn't what the original question was about.

The Batman Beyond suit might level the playing field, though. But that's not really any Batman we've known save for a quick flashback or two, and he created that to compensate for his old age and loss of physical prowess so it kind of evens itself out.

 

[Admiral_Young]

I think Ultimate Iron Man would give Bruce more problems than regular Tony...Ultimate Tony fights dirty.

 

[arch101]

There was an issue of IM in the late '70s where Stark had to go on a dangerous mission armor-less. He went to Steve Rogers for some basic hand-to-hand techniques and admitted he was out of his league with fisticuffs. That was a pretty defining moment for the character and just how much he depends on his technology.

 

[Mr Light]

In all seriousness, Batman would win with enough time to prepare. If he gets ambushed, he'll definitely loose.

 

[Trekker4747]

:insert given "time to prepare" joke here:

Batman kicks people's asses easily and has been trained in a variety of martial arts and other disciplines. Even with the suit on he's not given much advantage as all the suit is is just a costume that offers him some protection from knives and bullets with maybe a bit of padding.

Tony Stark needs his suit to do his entire shtick! Without the suit Tony Stark is just another dickheaded billionaire way out of his league against Wayne who is a fully-trained fighter.

The ref would say "Fight!" and in a fury of blurs, fists and kicks the next thing Tony would see would be himself laying on a mat with all of his teeth scattered around him.

 

[Leroy]

If they are fighting just hand to hand no suits or armor/gadgetry Bruce wins because he has better marital arts training.

If they did have access to armor/gadgetry am I the only one who thinks it's lame the only way Batman wins basically is by shutting of the other characters power? (This goes for more than just fighting Iron Man)

 

[Nerys Myk]

:insert given "time to prepare" joke here:

Batman kicks people's asses easily and has been trained in a variety of martial arts and other disciplines. Even with the suit on he's not given much advantage as all the suit is is just a costume that offers him some protection from knives and bullets with maybe a bit of padding.

Tony Stark needs his suit to do his entire shtick! Without the suit Tony Stark is just another dickheaded billionaire way out of his league against Wayne who is a fully-trained fighter.

The ref would say "Fight" in a fury of blurs, fists, and kicks the next thing Tony would see would be himself laying on a mat with all of his teeth scattered around him.

And the whole time he's yelling "Not in the face! Not in the face!!!"

 

[Trekker4747]

:insert given "time to prepare" joke here:

Batman kicks people's asses easily and has been trained in a variety of martial arts and other disciplines. Even with the suit on he's not given much advantage as all the suit is is just a costume that offers him some protection from knives and bullets with maybe a bit of padding.

Tony Stark needs his suit to do his entire shtick! Without the suit Tony Stark is just another dickheaded billionaire way out of his league against Wayne who is a fully-trained fighter.

The ref would say "Fight" in a fury of blurs, fists, and kicks the next thing Tony would see would be himself laying on a mat with all of his teeth scattered around him.

And the whole time he's yelling "Not in the face! Not in the face!!!"

"... OR below the waist!"

With suits things changes quite a bit. Fuck all of the "time to prepare" and "special EMP gadget" stuff which is just mostly nonsense. I prefer Batman to not have to grab a gadget off his belt to stop a foe and that the suit is nothing more than bullet-proof protection, padding and a disguise.

Batman's gadgets designed specifically to fight Iron Man go aside all he has is "standard" equipment like the grappling hook and stuff like that. In a suit-based combat Iron Man wins its almost as much of a non-contest as it is the otherway around without suits. Even with "time to prepare" I wouldn't expect Batman to be able to take down a Predator drone, a tank, or a battleship even with specially designed weapons. That's what the Iron Man suit is, it's a weapon and a tank. All Tony has to do is fire some missiles, heat seeking ones, ones that can follow a designated target, or fire some guns or something, he beats Batman fairly easily.