Bruce Greenwood's Pike -- amazing character!

[Morpheus 02]

i really really really like Bruce Greenwood's portrayal of Pike in Star Trek 2.0 In the 20 or so minutes in screen time he had, I think he effectively showed Pike to be an inspirational leader, and his belief in Kirk's potential is very believable to me.

While he's a different Pike than I remember from TOS, I think he fits EXTREMELY well in this nu Trek universe. The ads for STiD said that this mission was personal for Kirk -- and I can very much believe that both he and Spock would want to do what they can to avenge Pike.

I think it's interesting...like a typical Starfleet Admiral he gives Kirk a hard time -- but there' a believable reason for it. ANd after a bit of time to cool down, he comes back to inspire Kirk, so he's not stuck in self-pity, but instead will have the opportunity to learn the ropes with Pike.

I hope we get to see Pike again through some kind of "Admiral's Log", or even a web special if possible.

Pike was a great character and be sorely missed by me

 

[SPCTRE]

I think he portrayed a very earnest, believable mentor for Chris Pine's nuKirk. I'll definitely miss him.

 

[fireproof78]

I agree. I think that Bruce Greenwood delivered an amazing performance as Pike, especially in Star Trek 2009. From the moment that he came on screen, I was pretty impressed by his demeanor and charisma as Pike.

To me, he represents the proto-Kirk, the kind of Starfleet captain that Kirk can become, with the right help. Greenwood strikes the right balance between a leader and a father figure/mentor to Pine's Kirk. He also has a warm feeling about him, like he is the easiest man to talk too.

Personally, I would take a new series with him as captain.

 

[Melakon]

I've not seen Bruce Greenwood in many films, but have always liked his work.

His Pike reminds me of Cliff Robertson for some reason.

 

[Mage]

Loved the character. I could watch a show where he's the captain.

 

[mos6507]

Despite not looking much like Jeffrey Hunter, I would have rather seen two films about him as Captain than what we got. Probably the only truly authentic part of nuTrek (beyond Urban's performance as McCoy, chronically underused).

 

[CorporalClegg]

He was okay in Thirteen Days. Culp did a better job IMO.

As Pike, though, he was outstanding.

 

[Claudia]

Pike's my favourite character in NuTrek - I'm really sad to see him gone because NuTrek could have used a more seasoned officer as mentor, seeing as they are more or less all inexperienced officers fresh out of the academy.

And I also loved Greenwood in 13 Days. He really has charisma and the ability to get you into a scene instead of just watching it (as Pike or JKF). Culp was great as well in 13 Days, though.

 

[Cyke101]

I think he portrayed a very earnest, believable mentor for Chris Pine's nuKirk. I'll definitely miss him.

When Kirk was demoted down to XO, I was really, *really* hoping to see Pike back on the big chair. Man, what a letdown.

 

[Claudia]

When Kirk was demoted down to XO, I was really, *really* hoping to see Pike back on the big chair.

Second that hope - as much as I love nuTrek but that instant promotion to captain just made no sense. So, having Pike leading another mission or two with Kirk as First Officer would have made more sense. The movie wasn't that long that they couldn't have fit in a sequence about another little mission here and there before Khan's attack...

 

[austen_pierce]

Greenwood's acting and interacting with the other actors owned the role of Pike. One of my faves... the look Greenwood gives Pine/Kirk in the ST09 bar scene after the latter slurs out "you can whistle really loud."

 

[fireproof78]

Pike's my favourite character in NuTrek - I'm really sad to see him gone because NuTrek could have used a more seasoned officer as mentor, seeing as they are more or less all inexperienced officers fresh out of the academy.

And I also loved Greenwood in 13 Days. He really has charisma and the ability to get you into a scene instead of just watching it (as Pike or JKF). Culp was great as well in 13 Days, though.

13 days is what help Abrams decide to try and get Greenwood for the role. He remember an aspect of Roddenberry saying that Kirk was inspired partially by JFK and he felt it would be a great to have an actor who played JFK be the mentor to Kirk. It all fit together very nicely.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

I like Greenwood in the part far more than I do Jeffery Hunter.

 

[Cyke101]

When Kirk was demoted down to XO, I was really, *really* hoping to see Pike back on the big chair.

Second that hope - as much as I love nuTrek but that instant promotion to captain just made no sense. So, having Pike leading another mission or two with Kirk as First Officer would have made more sense.

*Especially* since Pike personally delivered the news that Starfleet thought they themselves acted a little too hastily with the promotion. That just raised my hopes up so much!

I like '09 and think the promotion was a wee bit too fast. If the Abrams movies were about the start of our heroes' adventures (the academy, the start of the 5 year mission, etc), it'd make a lot more sense to have Kirk promoted to LT or perhaps even XO. The movies happen at such a breakneck speed that I don't mind a breather here and there.

 

[fireproof78]

When Kirk was demoted down to XO, I was really, *really* hoping to see Pike back on the big chair.

Second that hope - as much as I love nuTrek but that instant promotion to captain just made no sense. So, having Pike leading another mission or two with Kirk as First Officer would have made more sense.

*Especially* since Pike personally delivered the news that Starfleet thought they themselves acted a little too hastily with the promotion. That just raised my hopes up so much!

I like '09 and think the promotion was a wee bit too fast. If the Abrams movies were about the start of our heroes' adventures (the academy, the start of the 5 year mission, etc), it'd make a lot more sense to have Kirk promoted to LT or perhaps even XO. The movies happen at such a breakneck speed that I don't mind a breather here and there.

Well, technically, Kirk was promoted. I mean, I agree that the pacing was a little extreme, but he is labeled as a Lieutenant (junior grade or full is not clear) and made first officer.

Yeah, it is a little fast and not enough time is spent on Kirk as a junior officer. It made sense to me, but it could have been presented better.

Same thing with killing off Pike. It makes sense that Kirk would then be driven to make rash, emotional decision to avenge his mentor, and allow Marcus to manipulate him. But, killing Pike just seemed a little too fast to me as well.

 

[Morpheus 02]

I am assuming Kirk graduated as a full Lt. (with test scores "off the charts"...and being older...he must've had some college credits that "transferred" over...and possibly served an "internship" on a couple of starships.

I think we all agree the promotion to Captain was ridiculous, but they had to do what they must to "reset" TOS, and do so as quickly as possible. If they had instead re-done the series, and we had a while season or two...they could've paced it out to make it have more sense.

Don't know if I should make it a separate thread...but what was Pike's relationship to Spock in this reality? And who was his Number One?

 

[Brutal Strudel]

Apparently, Spock was his XO--he takes command in Pike's absence and Pike names Kirk as Sock's first officer.

 

[fireproof78]

I am assuming Kirk graduated as a full Lt. (with test scores "off the charts"...and being older...he must've had some college credits that "transferred" over...and possibly served an "internship" on a couple of starships.

I think we all agree the promotion to Captain was ridiculous, but they had to do what they must to "reset" TOS, and do so as quickly as possible. If they had instead re-done the series, and we had a while season or two...they could've paced it out to make it have more sense.

Don't know if I should make it a separate thread...but what was Pike's relationship to Spock in this reality? And who was his Number One?

I got the impression (for some reason) that it was similar to "The Cage" but a little more maturity. Pike seemed to really trust Spock, and there was not question as to Spock's role on Pike's ship. When Pike leaves, Spock is in charge, no questions asked.

Also, with regards to rank, Uhura is addressed as "Lieutenant" in all her interactions with senior officers, despite obviously still being a cadet. I took that as an indication that Kirk would also be a Lieutenant, and inserted in to the chain of command as such.

Like I said, it was not clearly defined in the film, and was too fast for my taste, but did not bother me too much.

 

[Claudia]

I am assuming Kirk graduated as a full Lt. (with test scores "off the charts"...and being older...he must've had some college credits that "transferred" over...and possibly served an "internship" on a couple of starships.

Hm, I didn't get the impression that Kirk had any *formal* education prior to the academy. So I don't know which credits could have been transferred... He spent most of his time drunk. He must have taken some of the aptitude tests according to the bar scene, but otherwise he was pretty much wasting his time and talents.

 

[Melakon]

And who was his Number One?

It doesn't seem there would have been a place for the female Number One of "The Cage". Spock already has the logical personality in these films, but maybe she was serving with Pike for years before the first film starts, and had gone to a different ship, or was a casualty.