Umm, you're comparing a major motion picture to the pilot of a mediocre tv series?.....YIKES!!
Broken Bow vs XI
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Broken Bow was the best pilot IMHO. Emissary is really only wonderful if you go on to love DS9, I don't find it too stand alone (and I do love DS9). Broken bow was an excellent episode combining great action and visuals, MANY characters clearly and realistically introduced (SOVAL SOVAL SOVAL!) and it left you wanting more. In my first viewing of ENT it was very disappointing to me to find the episodes immediately following BB so dull and I felt they were a let down from the greatness of BB. They should have kept up that pace!
Let's hope XI doesn't play a similar role in NuTrek, the exciting beginning let down by lacklustre followers.
Let's hope XI doesn't play a similar role in NuTrek, the exciting beginning let down by lacklustre followers.
Phase cannon violation!
Seriously, I loved Enterprise from the start and Broken Bow is a good pilot but it was pretty badly paced. Not necessarily too slow but somehow it dragged along. I didn't enjoy it very much on repeated viewings, unlike the new movie.
I don't think I ever said I didn't like it. I said I thought it could have been quite a bit better. I certainly don't bash it and my criticism center less on fanboy hang-ups and more on the basics. I think I have been very specific about what I felt worked and what didn't.Yawn... Yet another predictable thread started by 'startrekwatcher'.
You don't like Star Trek XI... I think we get it now.
Much like XI, there was tampering by time travelers. Had FG not been trying to incite a Klingon civil war, Klaang would not have gone to Sarin and then been chased down over Earth where his ship crashed and launched Archer's mission early.
I cared about as much about that as I did Delta Vega being near Vulcan--in other words not at all.
How is that a continuity flaw? The interior captured quite nicely the look of Trek yet merged it with the feel of a sub.
Agreed. This is pretty much how I treat all Trek. I recognize I like some things more than others, but I don't have to sit around and think about why.
It's just personal opinion, but I re-watched Broken Bow and like it less now.
I usually can do that but sometimes when I find that an episode or film is missing something I can't help myself from recalling earlier works as examples where that specific elements were done better. This was the case here.
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I love BB. It's the best modern Trek pilot but ST just blows it away in every way possible.
Ah yes, the missing "r."
You're right, it is possible they were a different beam weapon. With the same exact effects.
That's actually one of the things I disliked about ENT - the weasel way they technically followed continuity, while ignoring the spirit of it. But it was also the show that convinced me the old canon had to be dumped. It just weighed everything down.
As for "Broken Bow", it was alright but even then, you could see the creators didn't really have the courage of their convictions. Star Trek, despite its flaws, has that courage in spades.
Decon Chamber!!! Bring that back!!!
Ah yes, the decon chamber! That scene (and all the other decon scenes that followed) should be watched by all those people who claim that STXI appealed too much to the "lowest common denominator"...
Not to knock Star Trek (since it was a fun movie, but clearly designed to be just that, cherrypicking moments like a Greatest Hits package, then reassembling that into a meaningful script).
Broken Bow for me... everytime. Maybe I've grown accustomed to it. Maybe I just appreciate stuff others hate.
Broken Bow for me... everytime. Maybe I've grown accustomed to it. Maybe I just appreciate stuff others hate.
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