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British space exploration in the Whoniverse

Well, given all this talk about what happened and now didn't happen in Who seems erroneous, considering Who never bothers with time as a straight line. Events in the past AND the future change often, as the Doctor has referenced on countless occasions, most of time is in constant flux while some events are “fixed”. It’s these particular events that maintain the timeline from completely falling adrift and resulting in the true erasure of people, planets, entire races, or the universe itself, instead of just slight (or even more than slight) alterations of historic events. And the Doctor seems to have the ability to keep it all straight, what must happen and what conceivably could, can, or will change if need be.

In only one example, we’ve seen human history completely re-written within a single episode arc, the only result being that time has been corrected, not restored necessarily, but repaired well enough to move on in the general direction it needs to go. I can only assume it means the "fixed" events will be allowed to happen even if history itself is changed.

Even the time traveling Daleks ostensibly recognize that certain events must occur if the universe is to be held in check for all of existing time. At the moment the Daleks had control of Earth and killed thousands indiscriminately, one Dalek still saw the value of one single human as among the first of Earth to colonize Mars, and spared her to fulfill her destiny of that fixed future event. How the Daleks would rectify this event in their plans for Earth’s domination or even destruction remains to be seen, even as it was never played out, thanks to the Doctor saving the day(s). But still, many alterations can occur as long as certain events exist in the time stream in order for it to remain their time stream, as it would be possibly detrimental to the existence of the Daleks as well had that future event not ever taken place. And this is how the Doctor sees time, as an endlessly fluctuating construct, held together by certain “tent poles” in time.

So, EVERY Doctor Who story has happened, none have been erased in that sense. It all happened to all 11 Doctors and all the companions and all their various foes, it all happened to them. Even if current history can’t perceive it. It all happened at one time, OR another.
 
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Okay, this is a list of DW stories I don't think count, as they were heavily contradicted by more recent stories:

The Ark
The Underwater Menace
The Ambassadors of Death
Inferno (possibly)
The Android Invasion

Until someone convinces me otherwise, these stories will be relegated to the "never happened" category.

I cannot convince you, as it's my personal belief that any post that says past stories 'never happened' never existed ;-)

The Christmas Invasion states that the launching of the Guinevere One probe was Britain's first mission to Mars, clearly totally invalidating the British Mars missions in the 70s in Classic Who. Ergo, Ambassadors of Death never happened, and it's likely The Android Invasion didn't either, as that story had Britain sending space freighters all the way to Jupiter. In light of NuWho, this is outright nonsense.


a) If Guinevere is the first British probe to MArs, what happened to Beagle 2? (Oh, it failed, and it wasn't launched by Britain, so it doesn't count. The older stories can be finessed in in the same way).
b) It's all outright nonsense! It's all written by writers whio, even when they do know the past stories, won't let it get in the way of a good line - and it always has been.
The Purpose of Fan is to try and sort it out somehow. Otherwise, we're just ordinary viewers! :-)
 
I cannot convince you, as it's my personal belief that any post that says past stories 'never happened' never existed ;-)

The Christmas Invasion states that the launching of the Guinevere One probe was Britain's first mission to Mars, clearly totally invalidating the British Mars missions in the 70s in Classic Who. Ergo, Ambassadors of Death never happened, and it's likely The Android Invasion didn't either, as that story had Britain sending space freighters all the way to Jupiter. In light of NuWho, this is outright nonsense.


a) If Guinevere is the first British probe to MArs, what happened to Beagle 2? (Oh, it failed, and it wasn't launched by Britain, so it doesn't count. The older stories can be finessed in in the same way).

Except the British Mars missions in Classic Who were launched from Britain, and were extremely successful in that they did land on Mars.

Yes, I'm aware that time can be rewritten, but I'm at a loss to explain just what sort of event could negate the British Rocket Group sending up manned launches to other planets in the 70s and 80s.

I'd like to hear Allyn Gibson's opinion on all this; he always has good things to say.
 
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