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British singers with American accents

Kirby

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I was just reading the thread about Gillian Anderson speaking with a British accent for no apparent reason and got thinking... Why do British bands like the Beatles, The Who, The Rolling Stones sing without the British accent?

I suppose Herman's Hermits and The Dave Clark Five's vocals maybe had a bit more of a British accent to them, but for the most part British bands sounded more American than British.

I really can't comment much on music past 1990 or so, so maybe that's changed.
 
British punk bands from the 70's and 80's had British accents...for the most part.
 
Well, i'm of the opinion that the act of singing powerfully, with a lot of effort and gusto (i.e. like most rock singers do) is something of an equaliser when it come to accents.

When you hear singers who sound overtly like their nationality, i'm think that it is often a deliberate attempt to alter their natural singing voice rather than vice versa.

I know when I try and sing my accent disappears quite naturally.
 
Well I'm glad I'm not the only one who's been puzzled by this phenomenon. It's actually bothered me for years. :rommie: Mick Jagger seemed to be trying to imitate a generalized Southern accent of black singers who influenced him. I suppose something similar happened with all the rest - the Who to a large extent, the Beatles, to a lesser extent (I can still hear their accent in a lot of their songs).

But that influence would only affect rock & roll from previous decades when black American singers were the only real role models. I've noticed other types of singers - such as for musicals - who sound American and later I'm surprised how different they sound with their speaking accent.

It might be because to enunciate a song to make it understandable to the listener, you have to do things like pronounce r's and open up your vowells, that correspond to an American accent.

I really can't comment much on music past 1990 or so, so maybe that's changed.
No, I'm still hearing it in more recent stuff too. Imitating Little Richard can't be the reason anymore - I think it must be how singers are trained to sing.

Well, i'm of the opinion that the act of singing powerfully, with a lot of effort and gusto (i.e. like most rock singers do) is something of an equaliser when it come to accents.
If that's true, then do American singers sound British to you? :D
 
British punk bands from the 70's and 80's had British accents...for the most part.

It comes down to training. People who are trained sing in a way that is not heavily accented. In fact, my teacher when I was a child really worked to remove the natural twang from my singing voice.

Not that I have anything against punk, but generally those playing punk are self taught with very little formal training.
 
My guess would be that American music (be it Jazz, Swing, RnB, Rock, Soul or Rap) has been the dominant form of popular music for close to a Century.
 
I think that it is just that when you sing, your voice tends to flatten out a bit, and the accent wanes. I don't think its a conspiracy, or the fact they are trying to sound American. I think it is just the nature of singing vs. the nature of talking.

Even singers with heavy accents, think Garbage here, she doesn't sound Irish when she sings, sometimes you can hear it, but mostly I think its just cause the accent kinda lessens when you sing vs. talking.
 
You use a different part of your brain when you sing than when you speak. It's as simple as that.
 
Even singers with heavy accents, think Garbage here, she doesn't sound Irish when she sings, sometimes you can hear it, but mostly I think its just cause the accent kinda lessens when you sing vs. talking.
Of course she doesn't sound Irish, what with her being Scottish and all that.
 
Even singers with heavy accents, think Garbage here, she doesn't sound Irish when she sings, sometimes you can hear it, but mostly I think its just cause the accent kinda lessens when you sing vs. talking.
Of course she doesn't sound Irish, what with her being Scottish and all that.
She shoud sing in interviews. ;)
 
Even singers with heavy accents, think Garbage here, she doesn't sound Irish when she sings, sometimes you can hear it, but mostly I think its just cause the accent kinda lessens when you sing vs. talking.
Of course she doesn't sound Irish, what with her being Scottish and all that.

lol I stand corrected
 
Well, i'm of the opinion that the act of singing powerfully, with a lot of effort and gusto (i.e. like most rock singers do) is something of an equaliser when it come to accents.

When you hear singers who sound overtly like their nationality, i'm think that it is often a deliberate attempt to alter their natural singing voice rather than vice versa.

I know when I try and sing my accent disappears quite naturally.

You're right: even within Britain (let alone America), Sheena Easton had a pronounced Scottish accent when talking, but not when singing.
 
I listened to a bunch of Beatles songs yesterday to check out whether I remember them correctly and wow, my impression that they sang with a British accent is largely wrong. I can't believe I've never noticed this before! :rommie:

Sometimes they seem to be imitating a Southern American accent, especially in American songs they are doing covers of - "A'hm" instead of "I'm," that sort of thing - subtle and easy to miss. Probably imitiating the accent of the original singers.

Of the couple dozen songs I listened to, it's easier to target the few instances where I did hear British pronunciation: "can't" in All You Need is Love (didn't open up the vowell); "perfectly" (vowell is more like "air" than "err") in Fool on the Hill. But in the same song, they pronounce the vowells in "day," "answer" and "man" and in the American way. In Eleanor Rigby, they don't hit the "r" hard in the first "church," but they do in the second (for emphasis?) They pronounce the vowell in "been" in the British way, but "rice," "face," and "name" have American vowells.

(By British accent, I mean the Beatles' speaking accent, which of course is a regional accent as well.)

So does it just happen that an American accent corresponds to what people are forced to do when they sing (pronounce r's and open up vowells?) For instance, words like "words," "there" and "near" sound American because they are holding the "r"s in order to draw out the sound much longer than you'd speak the same word. But then, how come the British punk bands didn't do the same, then? Or did groups like the Beatles start off by imitating American singers and consciously or unconsciously continue doing so even in their own original songs?

It comes down to training. People who are trained sing in a way that is not heavily accented. In fact, my teacher when I was a child really worked to remove the natural twang from my singing voice.
That would explain the musicals singers, but pop bands? The Beatles were never formally taught to sing, were they?

And that begs the question why "no accent" means "standard American accent (sometimes with a Southern inflection.") Sure, I think an American accent means no accent, but I didn't expect foreigners to think that too. :D

And I still haven't seen anyone address the fascinating question: for those of you who don't speak with an American accent, do American singers sound like they have "no accent" to you?
 
^ American singers sound American, to me. And I think that using a more Americanized singing voice just sort of...works. It fits such a wide range of musical styles, for some reason.
 
I think that more annoying than British singing acts with funny accents (which I don't really find that annoying, well not much anyway) are British disc jockeys who put on strange accents and really should know better, really - the worst culprit by far being Tim "WESTWOOD!!!™" Westwood. :guffaw: (I mean, he's from Lowestoft, for crying out loud - mind you, so were The Darkness. :guffaw:)
 
Well, I did the obvious: Googled "beatles sing american accents."

Most of the discussion centers around the mundane "they were influenced by American singers" theory. Not much evidence for the intriguing "singing naturally makes you sound American" theory. Too bad, I was curious to find out the cause of that phenomenon. And it is handily refuted by British punk rockers (unless they were straining to deliberately hold on to their accents while singing?) so I should have known the mundane explanation would be the correct one.
 
It's all the style of music, rock & pop, which was predominantly developed in America. Anyone singing it will not just gravitate toward sounding American, but most likely endeavor to do so, & rightly so
 
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