Bring me a six-pack from the engineering!
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Agreed.
Here we go again!
I really liked the anachronistic look of the engineering complex. The sense of scale and complexity was breathtaking. And considering the TOS engine room was all pipes and tanks too (albiet on a much smaller scale) I don't see the problem.
And remember, people - the TNG Enterprise had a pot-bellied stove for a warp core
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I really liked the anachronistic look of the engineering complex. The sense of scale and complexity was breathtaking. And considering the TOS engine room was all pipes and tanks too (albiet on a much smaller scale) I don't see the problem.
And remember, people - the TNG Enterprise had a pot-bellied stove for a warp core
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I like the look of the engineering, but I'm probably the only one.
While I can appreciate what you're saying there, those two points are part of what didn't work for me, in regard to the new sets. Yeah they were huge and complex - almost too big, because I had a hard time believing that all that could fit into the secondary hull. The anachronistic appearance of Engineering was a huge contrast to the ultra-hi-tech image of the bridge. Even if I hadn't known beforehand, I still would've thought it looked like a brewery.
While I can appreciate what you're saying there, those two points are part of what didn't work for me, in regard to the new sets. Yeah they were huge and complex - almost too big, because I had a hard time believing that all that could fit into the secondary hull. The anachronistic appearance of Engineering was a huge contrast to the ultra-hi-tech image of the bridge. Even if I hadn't known beforehand, I still would've thought it looked like a brewery.
Too much juxtaposing extremes, the Engineering did not belong on the same ship with their bridge. JJ Abrams might as well have made the bridge look like a present day naval bridge...retro, not futuristic.
The giant silos made Engineering... I don't know, not look like Engineering, but rather a bunch of silos with some catwalks between them. Where was the warp core? Where are all the consoles and things that go blip blap blop bloop? And imagine just trying to get to work in the morning...
But I think the shuttle bay looked exactly like a shuttlebay should: a bunch of shuttles, clustered together with their own little refueling/repair cradle. A turntable with a shuttle in a giant empty space, does not a shuttlebay make.
But I think the shuttle bay looked exactly like a shuttlebay should: a bunch of shuttles, clustered together with their own little refueling/repair cradle. A turntable with a shuttle in a giant empty space, does not a shuttlebay make.
The warp cores (at least six of them) were in those big silos. They're the big ones above when we see people walking through the lowest level of engineering on their way to and from the shuttlebay, which are the same ones Kirk and Scotty run past on the catwalks later. We see them eject from the top of the silos a the end.itsnotlogical said:
There were a few terminals dotted about. Scotty ejected the warp core on one, Kirk ejected Scotty on one, we saw Chekov adressing he troops on a couple. There was also one of those hi-tech glass sheets from the bridge (on wheels) when Scotty's going through the pipes.
Funny, I just watched the movie again back during Thanksgiving weekend, and I can't off the top of my head recall the image of the E's shuttlebay (probably because I was, as always, overwhelmed by the massive brewery that fueled the ship
)I'll have to bring up the digital copy on my wife's PC and take another look.
Both JJ and TOS, TAS, STVTFF shuttlebays look right to me.
But unlike JJ Abrams 1701 with many, many shuttlecrafts(like a Nimitz aircraft carrier has aircaft), TOS 1701 and ST V TFF 1701-A hangar deck shuttlebay only carries around a half dozen shuttlecrafts that are stored below via elevator/turnable and behind he two closed doors below the second level control room that Scotty was inside in STV TFF.
http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Shuttlebay
Again harking back to the TMP version of the Enterprise, I always thought that David Kimble's cutaway drawing showed a wonderful interpretation of the shuttlebay.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...p3QCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...p3QCA&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0
How did I miss that?
I'm fine with it -- it was time for a change from the same set since TMP with blinky neon lights.
Ideally, a place like CERN or FermiLab (which I've visited) would have been used instead...
FermiLab:
http://cms.web.cern.ch/cms/Media/Publications/CMStimes/2007/10_22/images/Fermilab ROC_0005_mid.jpg
http://www-visualmedia.fnal.gov/VMS_Site/gallery/stillphotos/2000/0500/00-0551-08.jpg
CERN:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0802/atlas_cern_big.jpg
http://thefutureofthings.com/upload/items_icons/ATLAS-cern_large.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/CERN-20060225-10.jpg
http://marriagerecs.com/veneer/02/pix/cern-04.jpg
... but I kind of like what we got. The upstairs and downstairs of Titanic didn't match.
Of course, people would complain that CERN looks too much like a brewery.
Ideally, a place like CERN or FermiLab (which I've visited) would have been used instead...
FermiLab:
http://cms.web.cern.ch/cms/Media/Publications/CMStimes/2007/10_22/images/Fermilab ROC_0005_mid.jpg
http://www-visualmedia.fnal.gov/VMS_Site/gallery/stillphotos/2000/0500/00-0551-08.jpg
CERN:
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/0802/atlas_cern_big.jpg
http://thefutureofthings.com/upload/items_icons/ATLAS-cern_large.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/91/CERN-20060225-10.jpg
http://marriagerecs.com/veneer/02/pix/cern-04.jpg
... but I kind of like what we got. The upstairs and downstairs of Titanic didn't match.
Of course, people would complain that CERN looks too much like a brewery.
Are you referring to the Bridge versus Engineroom or First Class versus Steerage?
You know, I bet that's what it really is.
Nice picture.
