I don't know. Seeing them all lined up like that, it feels like there's one too many uniforms in the sequence for the timeline. Maybe combine 3 and 4 into a single design?
Bridging the uniform gap between Enterprise and TOS
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I don't know. Seeing them all lined up like that, it feels like there's one too many uniforms in the sequence for the timeline. Maybe combine 3 and 4 into a single design?
Both my father and I were in the US Navy (20 yrs apart) and we both wore dungarees and the traditional Cracker Jack jumper, yet a sailor today wears blue coveralls and the Cracker Jack jumper (less than 8 yrs). During the mid 70's the CNO forced the Navy to change from the traditional dress uniform and went to an Officer style dress uniform for all enlisted, Adm Zumwalt (CNO) retired and in less than two years the Navy went back to the traditional dress uniforms.
I always thought that is what happened to the uniforms in TMP, that the revered Adm Nogura made Starfleet change the uniforms; that is why they all look unconfortable.
I always thought that is what happened to the uniforms in TMP, that the revered Adm Nogura made Starfleet change the uniforms; that is why they all look unconfortable.
Some nice work, but I still think ya need to work the field jacket in there somewhere. It works nicely as a way to bridge from the Ent jumpsuit too since it offers a second layer on top. For an example of how I personally would do it: The uniforms I came up for my pre-Cage fan-wank/script/film project. I wasn't trying to bridge necessarily, just work the 'The Cage' uniforms backwards a bit to where those field jackets might have come from.
I don't like these as a pre-Cage uniform. I really like them as a post-Nemesis uniform.
2 and 3 could easily be the same uniform, with the jacket being for away missions or something.
I don't know. Seeing them all lined up like that, it feels like there's one too many uniforms in the sequence for the timeline. Maybe combine 3 and 4 into a single design?
Agreed. Excellent uniforms, but I think they'd fit better in a post-Nemesis Starfleet, where the uniforms have gotten more black and gray and have emphasized the department colors less (those ugly future uniforms in "Endgame" and other eps notwithstanding).
It is quite a nice conjectural progression but these are both pretty good ideas. I also have to say that I can't stand the tucked in shirts after they become two-parters, and purple pants against such large swaths of yellow is not a particularly desirable colour combination, IMO. But I'm not sure how to rectify any of that without making them too TOS too fast.
EDIT: Although I do really like the idea of the separate ENT jacket and TOS undershirt combination that eventually leads to the jacket falling aside, last to be seen exclusively relegated to landing party duty.
Thats what I was going for2 and 3 could easily be the same uniform, with the jacket being for away missions or something.
I don't know. Seeing them all lined up like that, it feels like there's one too many uniforms in the sequence for the timeline. Maybe combine 3 and 4 into a single design?
Watch VOY's "Coda". Janeway's father wore a uniform like that.
Ok, that makes more sense. Seeing 2 and 3 next to each other, it looks like the idea was that they dropped the jacket in favor of putting the stripes and patch right on the shirt.
^ Yeah, sorry about that, Klondike. I forgot that you'd mentioned that in your original post. D'oh.
BTW, you know, a prominent belt might really help the two-piece, tucked in variation. And darken the pants maybe, while keeping it the same colour if you're set on that.
I hate how people often chalk that uniform up to some sort of costuming abberation or a dress uniform, when it really is quite an attractive 'tweener variation that should have been seen more.
How great would it have been if they'd had the money to use those on Yesterday's Enterprise? (and yes, I know that predates the design). The Enterprise-C crew would have looked really smart in those.
BTW, you know, a prominent belt might really help the two-piece, tucked in variation. And darken the pants maybe, while keeping it the same colour if you're set on that.
I hate how people often chalk that uniform up to some sort of costuming abberation or a dress uniform, when it really is quite an attractive 'tweener variation that should have been seen more.
How great would it have been if they'd had the money to use those on Yesterday's Enterprise? (and yes, I know that predates the design). The Enterprise-C crew would have looked really smart in those.
Have anyone an idea about the uniform gap between TOS - TMP and The Movie Era? I saw something somewhere but I don't remember where 
