Spoilers Brent Spiner in Star Trek Picard

[Dale Sams]

"My father *had* me but *made* him"

Very much the bitter tone that Lore had at times.

I'm hoping that Sutra was made from Lore's neurons and if AI IS Lore? What we see is the result of Sutra neutering him. Lobotomizing him or sticking him in an old frail body (Chabon your BSG love is showing)

Anything else is cheesy. Lore aged? Enhhhh....Lore is in disguise? Gak, please no.

I also hope we don't see a new Data. Data was vaporized. He gone. He's in Data heaven. Remaking him from a neuron is just AGAIN (hello Xmen and Westworld) a fancy word for cloning.

 

[Ronald Held]

I believe he is the biological son of Soong and Tanner.
I also thought he was trying to transfer his mind into a synth positronic Android(something his father did in Persistance of memory, AFAIR)

 

[fireproof78]

I don't see why Soong having a son is a big deal.

 

[Dukhat]

I don't see why Soong having a son is a big deal.

Neither do I. If Data wasn't aware of Juliana Tainer's existence prior to meeting her, why would he be aware of Soong and Tainer's son?

 

[Racefuel]

IIRC didn't Juliana say they tried many times to have children and failed?

 

[frankieteardrop]

FWIW, Chabon stated on Instagram that Altan Inigo Soong is Noonian Soong's natural son and that Juliana is not the mother. So I guess that definitively answers OP's question...

 

[Khan Jr]

The Juliana story was already pretty bad, with TNG running on fumes and the writers bringing in relatives again and again. It's unfortunate nothing was learned from that.

 

[ITDUDE]

FWIW, Chabon stated on Instagram that Altan Inigo Soong is Noonian Soong's natural son and that Juliana is not the mother. So I guess that definitively answers OP's question...

Of course he would say that... Doesn’t mean nothing

 

[Dale Sams]

FWIW, Chabon stated on Instagram that Altan Inigo Soong is Noonian Soong's natural son and that Juliana is not the mother. So I guess that definitively answers OP's question...

Welp that just leaves my 'Sutra was made with Lore neurons twist"

If she's just 'evil for the sake of it'...then the writers missed a real opportunity to make a more nuanced ending. Shit it could have tied into Stewarts theme about acting out of fear and fear of the other etc....

Whereas now the only sympathy i have for her is coming from ...in my pants...

What? I have a thing for evilllll chicks.

 

[saladdays]

It was clearly established in the episode that he is the biological son of Noonian. Unless we think there i

The Juliana story was already pretty bad, with TNG running on fumes and the writers bringing in relatives again and again. It's unfortunate nothing was learned from that.

I actually thought it was kind of interesting, even though it probably didn't make tons of sense from a continuity standpoint. But that hasn't stopped Trek in the past, so

 

[urbandefault]

AI Soong, hmm.

Maybe Daddy Soong just had a twisted sense of humor. After all, he did name his other sons B4, Lore, and Data.

 

[SoM]

Based on Chabon's replies to fan questions on Instagram, the writing team hasn't forgotten about Lore at all; rather, they made the choice to not include him in this particular story for whatever reason (though some people are speculating his claims are intended to throw viewers off so we'll be surprised if/when Lore does show up).

Thing about Lore showing up is that Spiner doesn't want to get back in the makeup. Playing Lore (or even B4) is the same as Data from that POV.

(He did two very short scenes in episode 1 in Data makeup, yes, but that's different from a playing major character like so.)

 

[Ronald Held]

So who wss Noonien Soong's mate for Altan?

 

[Racefuel]

So who wss Noonien Soong's mate for Altan?

Someone

 

[Qonundrum]

Heck, WRATH OF KHAN gave Kirk a hitherto-unmentioned son.

That's like your neighbor telling you he's going to the lake with a dry sponge and you guess the sponge is going to get wet when he's there.

It's far more amazing how few kids Kirk managed to produce when they could have made an entire movie out of that... or all of the various STIs that McCoy never had to deal with.

 

[fireproof78]

So who wss Noonien Soong's mate for Altan?

Who cares?

 

[Mark 2000]

It's whatever the fan wankiest possibility is. Frankly, you're all not thinking wanky enough. It's probably Data who survived through whatever BS positronic molecule they mentioned at the beginning of the season and was reconstituted by a Maddox reassembled Lore, but was trapped in a fleshbot body without access to his memories and they're going to have to trigger him like they did Soji to make him come back. But should they bring him back? Because the fleshbot is actually Altan, the son of Soong, and if they activate Data they'll kill the Altan personality.

 

[Cyrus]

I rewatched the episode: Soong calls him "Admiral Picard (retired)". It's Sutra who calls him "Captain Picard -- Data's captain." Perhaps she was made from Lore's "DNA" the same way Soji was made from Data.

that was not Sutra. It was Arcana.

So who wss Noonien Soong's mate for Altan?

no one. All soongs are clones of Arik.

 

[WarpFactorZ]

He's just an old-fashioned Love Soong.

Thank you for the ear worm....

PS: Awesome post.

 

[MrPointy]

Who cares?