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Cant you really blame people being ,,anti-muslim,, Crash when you hear news like this(guy was shouting Allahu Akbar when he was shooting) and this recently a Muslim father in Arizona runs over his daughter for being too westernized e.c.c.

Yes, I can. Would you like me to provide you with a list of crimes that Christians do? Or Jewish people? Or Buddhists?
not really but i can provide more list of crimes committed by Muslims against Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists and pagans if you want?:rolleyes:
 
not really but i can provide more list of crimes committed by Muslims against Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists and pagans if you want?:rolleyes:

So in other words you want to discriminate? We'll only complain about Muslim crimes? Gotcha.
 
Cant you really blame people being ,,anti-muslim,, Crash when you hear news like this(guy was shouting Allahu Akbar when he was shooting Americans) and this recently a Muslim father in Arizona runs over his daughter for being too westernized e.c.c.

Replace Muslim with Black or Asian or Christian or Jew and then reflect on how you'd feel painting all of them with the same broad brush based on the actions of a few. You'd think it was bigoted, right?

There are Muslim people who hate all Christians and Jews or Americans and Israelis, some out of petty bigotry and upbringing, and some because of actions taken against Muslim people where, like in this case, the anger would be justified. Is it right that someone hates you for actions you took no part in?

What do you think will be achieved by hating Muslims? If you think they are all or mostly radical, when has radicalism ever been effectively fought with more bigotry, short of mass genocide, which I somehow doubt you're advocating?

If you have to hate, hate the extremists, not the people in general.

Cant you really blame people being ,,anti-muslim,, Crash when you hear news like this(guy was shouting Allahu Akbar when he was shooting) and this recently a Muslim father in Arizona runs over his daughter for being too westernized e.c.c.

Yes, I can. Would you like me to provide you with a list of crimes that Christians do? Or Jewish people? Or Buddhists?
not really but i can provide more list of crimes committed by Muslims against Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists and pagans if you want?:rolleyes:

That's because you probably conveniently leave out some pretty horrific acts committed by governments in your list of crimes. Even if you just stick to acts by individuals or small groups there are plenty of crimes of note.
 
not really but i can provide more list of crimes committed by Muslims against Christians, Jews, Zoroastrians, Hindus, Buddhists and pagans if you want?:rolleyes:

So in other words you want to discriminate? We'll only complain about Muslim crimes? Gotcha.
I am not discriminate against Muslims. They are pretty much doing a great job doing that by their own actions. Anyway before this goes on any further. I want to point out i am not anti-muslim.
 
I am not discriminate against Muslims. They are pretty much doing a great job doing that by their own actions. Anyway before this goes on any further. I want to point out i am not anti-muslim.

Just because you say you're not doesn't make it true.
 
I am not discriminate against Muslims. They are pretty much doing a great job doing that by their own actions. Anyway before this goes on any further. I want to point out i am not anti-muslim.

Just because you say you're not doesn't make it true.
How can i answer that if my words isn't good enough for you. This should pretty much ends any discussion between us doesn't.
 
I am not discriminate against Muslims. They are pretty much doing a great job doing that by their own actions. Anyway before this goes on any further. I want to point out i am not anti-muslim.

Just because you say you're not doesn't make it true.
How can i answer that if my words isn't good enough for you. This should pretty much ends any discussion between us doesn't.

Scott, you were giving reasons why it was justifiable to hate and discriminate against Muslims based on the actions of a few. It's not like he pulled it out of thin air, it's right on this page. Just because you personally may not do so according to you, doesn't make arguing for it any better.

If you're having trouble conveying the meaning behind what you're saying, maybe it's time to take a step back and reconsider what you've written from the standpoint of how others might interpret you before posting it.
 
Ever read the Bible story about children being slaughtered because they teased a bald man?
Not too peaceful...

Hey, what book is that in? I've got a couple of Bibles over here by the couch.

I'm assuming it's in the Old Testament/ Hebrew Bible?
2 Kings 2:23-24 (King James Version)
23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Damn bears.
 
Ever read the Bible story about children being slaughtered because they teased a bald man?
Not too peaceful...

Hey, what book is that in? I've got a couple of Bibles over here by the couch.

I'm assuming it's in the Old Testament/ Hebrew Bible?
2 Kings 2:23-24 (King James Version)
23And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.

24And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the LORD. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Damn bears.

Colbert was right all along, we just didn't listen.
 
Damn, that's one prophet with anger issues. :wtf:
that is nothing. You should read Mohammad bio by Ibn Ishaq what Mo did with the Arab Jewish tribe Bani Qurysa. All the men that had reached puberty were beheaded and all the womens were sold into slavery.
 
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Just because you say you're not doesn't make it true.
How can i answer that if my words isn't good enough for you. This should pretty much ends any discussion between us doesn't.

Scott, you were giving reasons why it was justifiable to hate and discriminate against Muslims based on the actions of a few. It's not like he pulled it out of thin air, it's right on this page. Just because you personally may not do so according to you, doesn't make arguing for it any better.

If you're having trouble conveying the meaning behind what you're saying, maybe it's time to take a step back and reconsider what you've written from the standpoint of how others might interpret you before posting it.

I wasn't giving reason to justifiable to hate or discriminate against any Muslim. I was expressing reason why people might lash out against Muslims in moments of anger after hearing this kind of news. This guy was a Muslim Jihadits that shouted allahu akbar when slaughtering fellow Americans. I just watch CNN and evidence point out it was religious based attack and not some nutjob. Again i don't discriminate against Muslims. Rather i pity them.
 
I don't know why muslims have to achieve their goals by using violence

Extremist muslims, but that's just what extremists do. There are Christian extremists who bomb abortion clinics and murder doctors because they somehow believe that will change things in their favor. In Sudan there is an army called the Lord's Resistance Army, and they murder thousands of people who have done them no harm.

Extremists do not comprise an entire religion. An extremist can turn any belief or philosophy into a method of murder. It is most certainly not restricted to Islam, and particularly not most modern Muslims.


J.
 
It's inevitable that all religions develop this extremist component. There are a large number of people who are attracted to organized religion because they are crippled by insecurity and religion gives them a sense of identity; therefore they see anybody who chooses another religion or no religion as threatening their identity. Conflict ensues. This has been the story of Human history since the beginning, and it's something we need to outgrow to achieve true civilization.
 
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