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Breaking Bad - Season 3

See you for season 4, and I really am going to assume it will be the final one. I can't even imagine how their going to stretch this out for another whole season, but of course that's what I said going into season 3.
Early on, I couldn't see how this show could go three or even four seasons, but the way things are going now, I think they have enough material for at least five seasons.
 
This is how I see the show going down if it goes on for two more seasons:


SEASON FOUR
  • Jesse is going to struggle with what he did to Gale while Walt gets some temporary security for him and Jesse from Gus who has no choice but to take Walt on as his chemist with Gale dead. But that doesn't mean Gus won't be looking for another way of ridding himself of Walter that won't hurt his drug operation. At the same time, Walt will come to a decision that he may have to take out Gus to save himself. Either Walt will kill Gus or Walt will turn Mike aganist Gus and Mike will do the job or the Cartel will take out Gus with or without Walt's help.
  • Walt takes over Gus's position in the drug operation but before he could embrace the comfortable lifestyle of being on the top, he has to deal with a larger and more deadly set of problems than he has before.
  • Jesse becomes Walt's right-hand man, the Christopher to Walt's Tony Sopranos. I think at some point, Jesse will let his guilt about Gale fuel his darkness to the point of embracing that he is a killer like Walt did after killing the two drug dealers. But Jesse will do it to a nearly self-destructive point. He may continue doing drugs for a bit.
  • The Cartel would either be relucant partners with Walt or outright enemies. But either way, they would probably plot for a way to undermine Walt or put him under their thumb to keep him from becoming a rival.
  • Walt will be forced to let Skylar on his business and Skylar's involvement will grow further than Walt is comfortable with.
  • Hank returns to work and eventually learns the identity of Heisenberg which has him facing a major dilemma.
  • Walt Jr. would probably have his "breaking bad" moment this season which kicks off his own storyline for the season.
  • Season 4 will likely end with Jesse learning the truth about Jane and Walt realizing that his cancer has returned which would give Hank more second thoughts about turning his brother-in-law in.
SEASON FIVE

  • Walt becomes more dangerous and ruthless than ever with the return of his cancer. He refuses to undergo any mroe treatment with the problems he's dealing with from his drug dealing life.
  • Jesse goes through his share of emotional turmoil brought on by the revelation that his surrogaste father figure let his former girlfriend die. But Jesse keeps it a secret from Walt for a time.
  • Marie will discover that Walt is a drug dealer and at some point confronts her sister with this. When she learns that her sister knew about this all along, a rift will develop betwen them.
  • The Walt-Jesse relationship will crumble to a point in which Jesse plots for a way to ruin Walt's life which would lead to a showdown between them that's been a long time coming.
  • Jesse will die by drug overdose, by Walt's hand, or the hand of someone else. Walt will die due to his cancer or by the hand of someone else.
 
Just watched it again. Still a great episode.

For people wondering why Saul would put his neck out like this, he really didn't know who exactly Walt was dealing with. At the laser tag place Saul says something along the lines of "What have you got me in to!? I've got my own PI threatening to beat me up! That's like Magnum PI beating up that sniveling little guy with the mustache." It doesn't appear that Saul had any idea Mike was working for anyone else. Even when he was setting up Walt with Mr. Pollo, he didn't seem to know much.
 
No, Saul knew that Mike was connected to Gus. That's how he got in touch with Gus. As as Mike himself told us, Saul is and was well aware of what kind of man he was, else his threat wouldn't have held as much weight.
 
Right now, Gus can't kill Walt without effectively commiting suicide. If he does, he won't be able to cook the meth he needs to stay in the black.
Walt may be a professional chemist but he's not a Nobel Prize winner. Someone with the resources and savvy that Gus has should be able to find dozens of chemists with the skill to replicate what Walt has done.

And was Gus on the knife edge before Walt? I must have missed that. I thought he was doing fine without Walt.

Since when does he hate Hank? The real problem is that Walt realizes that Hank is the legitimate authority figure and he's the outlaw. That's okay until it becomes public knowledge and Walt Jr. finds out and then Hank becomes the legit father figure in the family and Walt is the outcast. That's the prospect he finds intolerable. Even for Marie to know would probably drive him nuts.
Oh, I've thought Walt has always hated Hank for being so macho and disrespectful of Walt's discipline, manners and education.

And because Hank was a blowhard, which can be pretty obnoxious.

I think Walt understands that Hank is a certain type of guy, the macho blowhard with the heart of gold, and is fine with him on that level, just like Hank is fine with Walt on the level of "he's an egghead, but a decent guy." I've never noticed any animosity between them. Deep down, they're both tolerant of a variety of personalities which you would expect because to be blunt, both Skylar and Marie are kind of bitches and not the type who could hang onto guys who weren't at least somewhat accommodating. :rommie:

Walt and Jesse had reached unredeemable for me before this, now they really are just downright evil.

Walt, yes. Jesse's behavior can be explained by extreme grief and acting out, and then his loyalty to Walt, who is in danger because of Jesse. This show has become an experiment to put characters under extreme pressure so they show their true colors. Jesse's not as bad as we would have thought, but Walt is much worse. Even Saul's weasle-ness has its limits.
 
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No, Saul knew that Mike was connected to Gus. That's how he got in touch with Gus. As as Mike himself told us, Saul is and was well aware of what kind of man he was, else his threat wouldn't have held as much weight.
It just seemed fairly evident, in that last appearance, that Saul hadn't realized how in over his head he was, & what type of people he was dealing with, regardless of how connected he was with them, & therefore wasn't informed enough to realize how screwed he might be by aiding Walt & Jesse


And was Gus on the knife edge before Walt? I must have missed that. I thought he was doing fine without Walt.
He was, but Heisenberg's involvement with the murder of Tuco, fouled it all up. Gus intervened, & protected Walt, from Tuco's cousins, & that led to their deaths, which I imagine is a major issue with the cartel, as well as the fact that the last time we saw the leader of the cartel, he was getting his HQ stormed by authorities, who I assume were tipped off by Gus, who was making his move, by taking both actions

Gus saw in Walt an opportunity to get clear of his dependence on the Mexican drug cartel, & chose to protect him from retaliation, in order to profit from him, which tells us two things. Gus was using his new found meth specialist to change the balance of power, & also that Walt is a rather rare commodity, in this equation, or Gus would have made this move to out maneuver the cartel with some other chemist, like Gale, for example

Make no bones about it. Walt is the goose that lays the golden eggs, & true that it won't hold out much longer, but it has managed to get him this far, & it might have a bit more juice to get him an upper hand, in some way, if he plays his cards right, and is as clever as they seem to be implying he might be

That scene with Mike infiltrating the chemical supply company had a double purpose. First, to show what a bad ass he is, & second, to show that the cartel is probing for weakness. A shutdown of even minimal proportions, in production would be such a sign of weakness. In fact, one of my favorite things about this show, is that all the conflict that has developed is directly connected to Walt, & his choice to become a criminal. Jesse's become a murderer, Hank's been crippled, Gus is facing a drug war, & wide variety of folks are getting dead
 
Right now, Gus can't kill Walt without effectively commiting suicide. If he does, he won't be able to cook the meth he needs to stay in the black.
Walt may be a professional chemist but he's not a Nobel Prize winner.
They've implied several times that he may as well be. Both with flashbacks to his past and the fact that he's able to reliably cook the most pure type of meth anyone on the show has ever seen (including the DEA). He is intended to be something special.

The problem is that Gus doesn't need that something special. He just needs decent to good meth, which any chemist could produce. Or at least use them until he can find one able to do it nearly as well as Walt could.

Oddly enough, Gus' best bet for replacing Walt is Jesse himself. So far, he's the only person on the show who's gotten as close to Walt's product as Walt. And it may have been just as good; we only have Walt's grumbling about how impure it was to verify that it wasn't the same quality.
 
The problem is that Gus doesn't need that something special. He just needs decent to good meth, which any chemist could produce. Or at least use them until he can find one able to do it nearly as well as Walt could
I can see the logic of that point, but the circumstances have indicated otherwise. Until Walt came into Gus' outfit, Gus was relying on Cartel sponsorship, & product, which he no longer needed, after Walt's production began.

That's why he allegedly set up the cartel's HQ to be raided, in the episode "I See You". It's more than likely that Gus was making a big move for independence, based on Walt's involvement.

I don't know how realistic something like that is, but it's apparent that Gus has been using Walt as a game changer since before he even began mass production, so he could seize control of the U.S. meth market, without counting on cartel import.

Without Walt, or cartel support, it's feasible, at least within the story arc, that Gus might not have the ability to produce as consistent an amount of product even close to Walt's quality, for an albeit small but significant period of time, which could prove disastrous for his outfit, when it's now known that the cartel is back looking for weakness in his ranks

It's evident, for the story arc, that Walt's production is a rather formidable factor for the ongoing developments, & without someone who can continue that level of production, there is a definite temporary benefit for Walt. Hopefully he's smart enough to make proper use of it
 
No, Saul knew that Mike was connected to Gus. That's how he got in touch with Gus. As as Mike himself told us, Saul is and was well aware of what kind of man he was, else his threat wouldn't have held as much weight.

From what I remember they never actually say how Saul knows about Gus. Just that he knows a guy that knows Gus, but that he doesn't even know Gus' name. In fact he said eh couldn't even contact Gus if he wanted to. After that all he seems to know is that Gus is careful and been in business for a long time. I don't remember Saul ever indicating that he knew the nature Mr. Pollo and his enterprise. He also seemed genuinely surprised that Mike turned on him like that. Given all that, and the fact that he deals with criminals on a daily basis, I don't find it surprising that he would be siding with his cash cow clients. He doesn't live in the normal world, and he isn't privy to the same information about Gus that we have. I imagine that he's not a guy that gets scared by the average criminal.

Walt may be a professional chemist but he's not a Nobel Prize winner. Someone with the resources and savvy that Gus has should be able to find dozens of chemists with the skill to replicate what Walt has done.

I could have sworn Walt was part of a team that was at least nominated for a Nobel. Besides that he's been referred to several times as being the master of crystalography. So there may be smarter guys out there but there aren't many, if any, crystal experts on the level of Walt. Also I imagine if Gus did find another one, they would have zero experience with Walt's process, and may not be as willing to make meth as Walt is. I think it's telling that the other members of his chemistry team are multi-billionaires. Walt is an elite level chemist with a specialty in crystals. I don't think that's very easy to replace. If it really were that simple to figure out, others would have copied his meth by now.
 
From what I remember they never actually say how Saul knows about Gus. Just that he knows a guy that knows Gus, but that he doesn't even know Gus' name. In fact he said eh couldn't even contact Gus if he wanted to. After that all he seems to know is that Gus is careful and been in business for a long time. I don't remember Saul ever indicating that he knew the nature Mr. Pollo and his enterprise. He also seemed genuinely surprised that Mike turned on him like that. Given all that, and the fact that he deals with criminals on a daily basis, I don't find it surprising that he would be siding with his cash cow clients. He doesn't live in the normal world, and he isn't privy to the same information about Gus that we have. I imagine that he's not a guy that gets scared by the average criminal.
And, again, it was made clear that Mike was Saul's connection to Gus. Whether or not Saul knew a single thing about Gus other than he was a drug kingpin doesn't matter. He knew Mike. He knew Mike knew Gus. He knew Mike was seriously hardcore. And he knew that fucking with Mike was a very bad idea -- as Mike's threat made abundantly clear in the finale. If Saul just thought he wasn't a chump, he wouldn't have been remotely scared by Mike's simple threat.

Saul doesn't have to know Gus personally. All he needs to know is that Gus is the one actually supplying all the money, and that Mike is a heavy hitter. Those two facts alone make his actions in the finale nonsensical.

There has to be some other reason he feels compelled to risk his life to go against just Mike. Perhaps Walt has actually told him his overall plan, and we just haven't seen that yet? Perhaps they're conspiring in some Machiavellian fashion, and this is the first step in that plan? Whatever it is, it has to be a lot more than a small fraction of a couple million dollars to get Saul to risk his life and his professional criminal lawyer career like that.
 
In the great tradition of adding and removing laugh tracks to drastically change the tone of a television show, a genius has added some canned laughter to "Breaking Bad." No longer is it an extremely dark comedy that relies on strong writing and strong acting. It's a punchline-extravaganza, perfect for ABC. And no longer is it good.

Click for video:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/15/laugh-track-added-to-brea_n_613183.html
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Boy! That was good! Changing the whole soundtrack and including a laugh track really does make a difference. I like the part where Walt peeps out the window after Skyler calls, then we hear laughter. :lol:
 
I caught up on all 3 seasons over the past 2 weeks, and can't wait for more. Any news on when season 4 starts airing, yet?

^ Yeah, it looked like Jesse slowly pointed the gun away from Gale and fired.

I came here to say something about that. He had the gun pointed right at his head, then at the last second appeared to move the gun a few inches to the right just before he fired. As pointed out it was apparently unintentional, but I'm glad I'm not crazy in having noticed that.

It looked like that to me at first as well, but I rewound to watch that again, and what happened was, the camera moved so as to stand in the path of the bullet.
 
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