BRAVE/BOLD classic!!!

[RobertScorpio]

Tonight's Batman/Brave Bold was, yet again, one of the best. This, for me, is now the best Batman animated show. TAS was very good, but often it was boring. The Batman was awful....Brave and the Bold is fun because it is aimed right at fans of the silver and golden ages...

Tonight we saw the CLASSIC JLA Sattelite!!! We saw the HALL OF JUSTICE...we saw Wonder Woman's sexy butt!!..and best of all? The witty dialog was just great!!!! two thumbs up...a TEN!!!

Keep it coming Brave and the Bold!!! You're on fire!!!!

And next week its the METAL MEN!!!!

Rob

 

[shivkala]

"Sit, Ubu, sit." Had me in stitches, as did, "Quick, retrieve my bow from that crocodile pit!"

I loved the reverse psychology angle between Batman and Robin. Oh, and Aquaman's comments on it, "I think I'll call this adventure, "The Time Batman Picked the Wrong Island!"

Memo to self: Never moved to Coast City, even if it is the city that overcame fear.

The ending was perfect, even if I it was a bit predictable. I did enjoy Batman's part in his naming though.

 

[Chris3123]

Tonight's Batman/Brave Bold was, yet again, one of the best.

Indeed it was. Excellent episode.

Tonight we saw the CLASSIC JLA Sattelite!!! We saw the HALL OF JUSTICE...we saw Wonder Woman's sexy butt!!

You forgot the most important one... we finally got to see Superman on this show! Yeah, he was only on for about 10 seconds, he had no dialogue, and we didn't even get to see his face (interestingly, same deal with Wonder Woman; could this have to do with some "embargo" thing?). But at least he was there!

Oh, and we saw Martian Manhunter for the first time too.

..and best of all? The witty dialog was just great!!!! two thumbs up...a TEN!!!

Yep. The writers really know what they're doing.

"Sit, Ubu, sit." Had me in stitches,

That gave me a chuckle. I wonder how many people actually got it?

as did, "Quick, retrieve my bow from that crocodile pit!"

Now that one had me in stitches.

I loved the reverse psychology angle between Batman and Robin.

You mean reverse reverse psychology. I saw it coming.

The ending was perfect, even if I it was a bit predictable. I did enjoy Batman's part in his naming though.

While I recognized Talia's comment to Robin as foreshadowing, I had no idea he would actually become Nightwing at the end of the same episode.

I also liked the foreshadowing of the Teen Titans in the simulator.

By the way, I originally assumed Aqualad was Arthur Jr., which led me to want to mention here an issue with the characters ages and the show's timeline, namely how "The Color of Revenge!" (featuring a young adult Robin) and "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!" (featuring a kid Arthur Jr.) would have to be several years apart. But then I read that Aqualad in the comics is not Aquaman's son. You know, they really didn't make that clear in the episode. Aqualad as we saw him in the first scene certainly looked like he was supposed to be the same character as Arthur Jr in "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!".

 

[Mr Light]

I was mainly happy to see the backsides of Supes and WW. Fetch my bow from the crocodile pit was hilarious Did Adult Robin ever wear those yellow tights in the comic book?!

 

[CaptainCanada]

(interestingly, same deal with Wonder Woman; could this have to do with some "embargo" thing?)

With Superman, from what I understand, it's just that the writers haven't wanted to do a Superman/Batman teamup in favour of using more obscure characters (same with the rest of the original JLA apart from Aquaman, who wasn't on JLU as a regular). One imagines they'll get to him eventually anyway.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I was mainly happy to see the backsides of Supes and WW. Fetch my bow from the crocodile pit was hilarious Did Adult Robin ever wear those yellow tights in the comic book?!

Yes, in an issue of JLA Robin borrows that costume from the Earth-2 Robin. It was designed by Neal Adams. Sadly, the Earth-1 Robin goes back to the shorts and elf-shoes afterwards. The Earth-2 Robin adopts that costume and wears it until he dies in Crisis.

 

[Gojirob]

When he was first established as a separate character in the 1960's, the E-2 Robin looked like this :

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_wpPLG-yJp...ADT0/mgLqJuHryIg/s1600-h/Earth2Robincover.jpg

All in all, a rocking superior episode with some terrific moments.

Here's a custom someone did of that early costume :

http://www.actionfigureinsider.com/custom-showcase/1/robin-of-earth-2-by-iron-cow/

 

[StarshipDefiant]

Is this the one where he does a team up each episode with a different DC hero? Saw a few of those, were pretty interesting...wonder how far behind I am now.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I was mainly happy to see the backsides of Supes and WW.

Dang, I blinked and missed that part. Seriously, why hasn't WW appeared on the show yet?

The "Sidekicks" should have had a girl in their group.

The episode was OK, but I liked the JSA episode from last week a whole lot more.

When are they going to finish the story with the Challengers of the Unknown?

 

[CaptainCanada]

Seriously, why hasn't WW appeared on the show yet?

Because she can't do guest appearances, ever, under some contractual rule. Hence, why she wasn't in the League on Batman Beyond (the producers subbed Big Barda for her) or The Batman, and why she was the only JLU main castmember not to appear on Static Shock.

The "Sidekicks" should have had a girl in their group.

The only notable first-gen female sidekick is Donna, who, as part of the Wondy mythos, can't appear. Beyond that I guess there's Mia, but she's the second Speedy, and they've already got one of those (wrong grouping, anyway).

 

[shivkala]

I had not heard of a Wonder Woman embargo (similar to the Batman villain embargo that plagued JLU). Though, despite the reason, I did note the absence of a female member, but then again, the show has been pretty lax in the female partner department.

 

[Professor Zoom]

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By the way, I originally assumed Aqualad was Arthur Jr., which led me to want to mention here an issue with the characters ages and the show's timeline, namely how "The Color of Revenge!" (featuring a young adult Robin) and "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!" (featuring a kid Arthur Jr.) would have to be several years apart. But then I read that Aqualad in the comics is not Aquaman's son. You know, they really didn't make that clear in the episode. Aqualad as we saw him in the first scene certainly looked like he was supposed to be the same character as Arthur Jr in "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!".

I thought Author Jr. was blonde and Aqualad had black hair?

Great episode.

 

[Christopher]

I didn't care for the teaser in "Sidekicks Assemble!" It's bad enough accepting the conceit that superheroes would be irresponsible enough to have 13- or 14-year-old sidekicks, but the kids in the teaser/flashback seemed like they were 9 or 10. That was just creepy.

And the main story wasn't one of my favorites either. It seemed awkward to see Batman treating Robin like a child so soon after the Justice Society episode where we saw him and Black Canary chafing at being treated the same way by the JSA.

But then I read that Aqualad in the comics is not Aquaman's son. You know, they really didn't make that clear in the episode. Aqualad as we saw him in the first scene certainly looked like he was supposed to be the same character as Arthur Jr in "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!".

Wasn't Arthur Jr. in that episode wearing the blue-and-white costume that Aquaman used briefly in the late '80s? That was a nicely obscure allusion.

I had not heard of a Wonder Woman embargo (similar to the Batman villain embargo that plagued JLU).

It's not an embargo, exactly. A show can use Wonder Woman, but only if she's a lead character, as she was on Justice League or in her self-titled DVD feature. But for some strange reason, nobody's allowed to use her as a guest character. I think the idea is to make sure she retains a high profile, but it kind of has the opposite effect, because it prevents her from showing up as often as other characters.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I didn't care for the teaser in "Sidekicks Assemble!" It's bad enough accepting the conceit that superheroes would be irresponsible enough to have 13- or 14-year-old sidekicks, but the kids in the teaser/flashback seemed like they were 9 or 10. That was just creepy.

Is it any creepier than Peter Pan fighting Captain Hook? Or any other fantasy that has children as heroes? (often fighting adult villians)

 

[Christopher]

It's one thing to see a story in which kids choose on their own to do heroic things, whether by lacking adult supervision or defying it. It's something very different to see the children's adult guardians actually encouraging them to participate in life-threatening activities, cultivating them for a life of danger from such an early age. It's the adults' implied negligence that's creepy. Not to mention the fact that these adults would choose partners who are preadolescent, rather than older, stronger, more experienced sidekicks who'd be more logical choices for backup. It's like they want to endanger children specifically.

Of course, I understand that this is a fantasy for children's benefit -- kids getting the opportunity to play with the big boys and save the day -- but looking at it as an adult, it just feels disturbing to me.

 

[Nerys Myk]

That Dumbledor was a right bastard, eh?

Well as an adult there are lot things about superheroes that are disturbing, but then I remember they were designed to appeal to kids. Bringing an "adult "sensibilty to a kid's product just weakens the product and sucks the fun out.

 

[Praetor]

It's the Silver Age, Christopher. It's not supposed to make sense. They were even making fun of it themselves to a degree. It's not JLU. Tongue is firmly in cheek here.

That said, I loved it. It bordered on fanwankery with the showing of the Hall of Justice but I still dug it. I hope Martian Manhunter gets greater exposure.

 

[MeanJoePhaser]

Ra's Al Ghul used as originally intended, an eco terrorist, makes me realize how sucky he is.

That and the giant plants...where's Poison Ivy, that's more her schtick.

 

[Chris3123]

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By the way, I originally assumed Aqualad was Arthur Jr., which led me to want to mention here an issue with the characters ages and the show's timeline, namely how "The Color of Revenge!" (featuring a young adult Robin) and "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!" (featuring a kid Arthur Jr.) would have to be several years apart. But then I read that Aqualad in the comics is not Aquaman's son. You know, they really didn't make that clear in the episode. Aqualad as we saw him in the first scene certainly looked like he was supposed to be the same character as Arthur Jr in "Aquaman's Outrageous Adventure!".

I thought Author Jr. was blonde and Aqualad had black hair?

You might be right. I don't pay much attention to such details.

 

[Christopher]

That Dumbledor was a right bastard, eh?

That's different. Dumbledore was pretty assiduous about keeping Harry safe (insofar as anyone at Hogwarts is safe) until he was old enough to take care of himself. It's one thing when it's a 14- or 15-year-old; I can suspend disbelief enough to accept that. But these kids in the teaser came off like they were still in single digits, maybe 9 or even 8, and that was just taking it too far for my tastes. If they'd been played by older actors, if their voices had sounded more adolescent, I could've lived with it, but they sounded like they were really, really young and that was just disturbing.

It's the Silver Age, Christopher. It's not supposed to make sense.

I'm not talking about whether it makes sense, and I don't need it explained to me. I know perfectly well what they were trying to do. I'm saying it didn't work for me, and I explained my reasons why. That doesn't make me ignorant or in need of a lecture about the Silver Age. It just makes me someone who's uncomfortable with the concept of small children being deliberately placed in mortal danger by their adult guardians. How is that a bad thing to feel?

It bordered on fanwankery with the showing of the Hall of Justice but I still dug it.

Yeah, the exact replication of the Superfriends HoJ was pushing it, but I tend to be tolerant of such things since the Superfriends HoJ was based on my favorite building, the Union Terminal in Cincinnati.