Brainstorming starship names

[captcalhoun]

no starship with a USS prefix should ever be named Queen anything or King anything or Ark Royal. or Prince or Princess either.

mind you, HMS Queen Elizabeth is a shitty name for a ship anyway. likewise HMS Prince of Wales.

damn you, Royal Navy, damn you all to hell! couldn't you name the new carriers Albion, Centaur and stuff from WWII that sounds cool?!

 

[Triskelion]

I wouldn't want to be a crewman on Starship Jesus (I plan to go further than a ship can take me). So probably Kahless, et al might not be well received?

 

[Vanyel]

no starship with a USS prefix should ever be named Queen anything or King anything or Ark Royal. or Prince or Princess either.

mind you, HMS Queen Elizabeth is a shitty name for a ship anyway. likewise HMS Prince of Wales.

damn you, Royal Navy, damn you all to hell! couldn't you name the new carriers Albion, Centaur and stuff from WWII that sounds cool?!

Why not? In Starfleet I don't think USS stands for anything. Not like in the US Navy where it stands for United States Ship.

 

[Basill]

no starship with a USS prefix should ever be named Queen anything or King anything or Ark Royal. or Prince or Princess either.

mind you, HMS Queen Elizabeth is a shitty name for a ship anyway. likewise HMS Prince of Wales.

damn you, Royal Navy, damn you all to hell! couldn't you name the new carriers Albion, Centaur and stuff from WWII that sounds cool?!

Why not? In Starfleet I don't think USS stands for anything. Not like in the US Navy where it stands for United States Ship.

Actually, I think there is at least one instance in TOS where Kirk refers to his ship as the United Space Ship Enterprise. There might even be a separate instance where he voices United Star Ship somewhere, but I can't really be certain. I'd have to research it to find the exact episode and line of dialog, but I am pretty sure USS stands for either United Space Ship or United Star Ship.

NCC on the other hand probably has no real acronymic source.

Edit: Update. Ok, after looking up "USS" on the Memory Alpha site http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Portal:Main
It would appear that both those designations were used in multiple episodes.

 

[hellsgate]

No, I can't see ships with names derived from british royalty, but I can see (within reason,) certain religious names. In example:

• U.S.S. Ecclesiastes
  Pandora-Class Freighter (2380's)
  Registry Number FMS XXXXX
  

 

[Vanyel]

Actually, I think there is at least one instance in TOS where Kirk refers to his ship as the United Space Ship Enterprise. There might even be a separate instance where he voices United Star Ship somewhere, but I can't really be certain. I'd have to research it to find the exact episode and line of dialog, but I am pretty sure USS stands for either United Space Ship or United Star Ship.

NCC on the other hand probably has no real acronymic source.

Edit: Update. Ok, after looking up "USS" on the Memory Alpha site http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Portal:Main
It would appear that both those designations were used in multiple episodes.

So then there is no definitive meaning for USS?

No, I can't see ships with names derived from british royalty...

Why not? I would think that any sovereign could be considered as the source name for a Sovereign Class ship. Just as any President's name can be used for a US ship.

 

[MarianLH]

NCC on the other hand probably has no real acronymic source.

I recall reading that it came from the tail code of Matt Jeffries' private plane.

"Naval Construction Contract" and "Naval Contact Code" have been bandied about by various fan publications over the years, but neither really works for me.


Marian

 

[Vance]

So then there is no definitive meaning for USS?

"United Star Ship". Originally, and it's spoken thus early in TOS, it's "United Space Ship", but this was 'updated' later and is the official and canon acronym.

"NCC" has no 'canon' declaration, but the only one that's been official (and with Gene Roddenberry's signature) has been "Naval Construction Contract", from the Star Trek Blueprints.

 

[Unicron]

^^ I dunno, I always kind of liked it. I can't think of many other reasons to use NCC for registries.

 

[captcalhoun]

because, it sounds wrong.

and besides like i said, i just plain don't like naming warships King anything, Queen anything or Prince or Princess. hell, i'm not even all that keen on naming a warship Iron Duke

 

[Vanyel]

because, it sounds wrong.

and besides like i said, i just plain don't like naming warships King anything, Queen anything or Prince or Princess. hell, i'm not even all that keen on naming a warship Iron Duke

Ok personal opinion. I understand that.

 

[Forbin]

Forbin, if you're THAT bored, isn't it time that you do another ship model? Like maybe the actual Enterprise for once?

Well, as a matter of fact....

But I've already screwed up enouigh bits that I'mm calling it a practice build.

 

[Triskelion]

Probably the most relevant reason for the NCC and 1701 of the Enterprise was that they were recognizable on small grainy TV screens. NCC hints at pilot's registries, but it's been pretty well established that it has no certain meaning. For that matter, ship registries had no canon policy or system at all. So I think a certain amount of license here is permissible.

After months I finally hit on the right name for my shuttle! And it's really kind of a simple variation of Delta Flyer.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Do we actually know that? I just can't recall myself, but I'd think there would have to be some sort of local planetary agencies if nothing else. Maybe just not as prominent since so much of the Federation's government is based there...here...here then.

It does seem rather pointed that TNG doesn't have Earth as independant from the Federation government. Granted, I don't think it's explicitly mentioned, but it is explicitly mentioned that other planets aren't - highlighting a DIFFERENCE in how they're treated.

Earth's own government is called United Earth. There were supposed to be references to it in that DS9 two parter (Homefront/Paradise Lost) but they got cut for time.

It's not surprising that we usually don't see United Earth, as we rarely even see Earth at all in any form of Trek. But it does have its own government - which didn't just disappear when the Federation was formed.

 

[Vance]

It's not surprising that we usually don't see United Earth, as we rarely even see Earth at all in any form of Trek. But it does have its own government - which didn't just disappear when the Federation was formed.

But it's how it's treated more than anything that makes it so unusual. "Earth" is "Federation Capital", basically, but it's fallen to 'Washington DC' status while the rest of the Feddie planets remain their own nations (more or less). Earth isn't really discussed as a member of the Federation anymore, and seems far far regulated in status.

Which, really, isn't surprising, since it's also how the 1990s PC movement felt that the United States should be in relation to the United Nations.