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From the director of Birds of Prey. I remember Birds of Prey getting poor reviews and being slammed by fans, but now I see it has positive scores on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences. Maybe this film will also get good reviews from critics, and Jenna Ortega will be the first non-franchise film to receive positive reviews.
 
From the director of Birds of Prey. I remember Birds of Prey getting poor reviews and being slammed by fans, but now I see it has positive scores on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences. Maybe this film will also get good reviews from critics, and Jenna Ortega will be the first non-franchise film to receive positive reviews.
Birds of Prey was great. It didn't suffer at the box office because of quality.
 
From the director of Birds of Prey. I remember Birds of Prey getting poor reviews and being slammed by fans, but now I see it has positive scores on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences. Maybe this film will also get good reviews from critics, and Jenna Ortega will be the first non-franchise film to receive positive reviews.

Birds of Prey was great. It didn't suffer at the box office because of quality.

BoP was a great movie that got terrible publicity because it pissed off BoP comics fan for being basically nothing like the comics. But I think the main thing that brought it down was the R rating. It just wasn't the type of movie R rated audiences tend to embrace and being R rated tends to be a deal breaker for large percentages of the general audience who I think would've enjoyed the movie otherwise.
 
BoP was a great movie that got terrible publicity because it pissed off BoP comics fan for being basically nothing like the comics. But I think the main thing that brought it down was the R rating. It just wasn't the type of movie R rated audiences tend to embrace and being R rated tends to be a deal breaker for large percentages of the general audience who I think would've enjoyed the movie otherwise.
Yeah, I agree with this. I was disappointed at first when I realized the Birds of Prey and even the individual heroes only vaguely resembled their comics counterparts, but that didn't last very long because the story and acting were so much fun.
 
From the director of Birds of Prey. I remember Birds of Prey getting poor reviews and being slammed by fans, but now I see it has positive scores on Rotten Tomatoes from both critics and audiences. Maybe this film will also get good reviews from critics, and Jenna Ortega will be the first non-franchise film to receive positive reviews.
The Fallout movie, released on HBO Max during the Covid period, received good ratings.

 
BoP was a great movie that got terrible publicity because it pissed off BoP comics fan for being basically nothing like the comics. But I think the main thing that brought it down was the R rating. It just wasn't the type of movie R rated audiences tend to embrace and being R rated tends to be a deal breaker for large percentages of the general audience who I think would've enjoyed the movie otherwise.
One of the big problems this movie, and Gunn's The Suicide Squad later on, had box-office-wise is that probably the biggest demographic in the Harley Quinn fanbase is teenage girls, so while an R-rating may make sense for the character itself, it is poison for the box office performance. WB saw Harley like their own Deadpool, and that was just too simplistic.
 
One of the big problems this movie, and Gunn's The Suicide Squad later on, had box-office-wise is that probably the biggest demographic in the Harley Quinn fanbase is teenage girls, so while an R-rating may make sense for the character itself, it is poison for the box office performance. WB saw Harley like their own Deadpool, and that was just too simplistic.

I thought she'd have a big teenage boy fanbase too. You could be right, but I thought the big problem with Birds of Prey was backlash from both Suicide Squad and Captain Marvel.
 

Box Office: ‘Zootopia 2’ Returns to No. 1 as ‘Ella McCay’ Suffers One of Worst Debuts Ever for Disney With $2 Million

Disney is experiencing the highs and lows the box office has to offer. On one hand, the studio’s animated sequel “Zootopia 2” returned to No. 1 in North America in its third weekend after sprinting past the $1 billion mark. On the other, the political dramedy “Ella McCay” cratered with $2.1 million in its domestic debut, suffering one of the worst opening in modern times for Disney.

To be fair, “Ella McCay” cost $35 million to produce, which is way less than Disney tends to spend on its theatrical releases. Most of the studio’s movies — including franchise fare from Marvel and Avatar, as well as family-friendly sensations like “Inside Out 2” and “Lilo & Stitch” — typically carry budgets above $200 million. Although “Ella McCay” isn’t in danger of turning a profit for Disney, the PG-13 misfire probably won’t cause heads to roll, either.


“Ella McCay,” written and directed by “The Simpsons” co-creator and “As Good As It Gets” filmmaker James L. Brooks, landed behind already low projections of $4 million. It’s not exactly a mystery as to why ticket sales missed the mark. “Ella McCay” is the kind of mid-budget film that studios hardly make anymore because audiences don’t show up to see them. And this one — a comedic drama about a young politician (Emma Mackey) who unexpectedly becomes her state’s governor — was roundly rejected by critics (a 24% Rotten Tomatoes average) and moviegoers (a “B-” grade on CinemaScore exit polls). “Ella McCay” continues a miserable box office run for Brooks after 2004’s “Spanglish” ($55 million against an $80 million budget) and 2010’s “How Do You Know?” ($48 million against a $120 million budget). However the Oscar-winner could end his theatrical dry spell with Disney and 20th Century’s “The Simpsons Movie” in 2027.


“James L. Brooks defined character storytelling in the ‘80s and ‘90s with a string of award-winning comedy dramas,” says analyst David A. Gross of Franchise Entertainment Research. “Today, you can find material like this on television and even on social media, where it benefits from authenticity.”

“Zootopia 2,” after ceding the top spot to Universal and Blumhouse’s horror sequel “Five Nights at Freddy’s 2,” returned to first place with $26.3 million in its third weekend, a 39% decline from its prior outing. The family friendly adventure has grossed $259 million domestically and $1.13 billion globally to date to stand as just the second Hollywood release this year to cross the coveted $1 billion mark.

“Five Nights at Freddy’s 2” slid to second place with $19.5 million, a brutal 70% drop from its scary-good $64 million debut. That’s rough, but not as bad as the original “Five Nights at Freddy’s” — which cratered by 76.2% in its second weekend while playing simultaneously on streaming. Still, “Five Nights at Freddy’s 2” cost just $36 million and registers as an undisputed win for Blumhouse, having already grossed $95 million and $173 million globally after two weekends in theaters.

“Wicked: For Good” remained at No. 3 with $8.5 million in its fourth weekend of release, a 51% decline from its prior outing. So far, Universal’s big-budget musical has earned $312 million domestically and $467 million globally. “Wicked: For Good” appears to be running out of steam much faster than its predecessor, 2024’s “Wicked,” which powered to $474 million in North American and $758 million globally.

A standout at the specialty box office includes Chloe Zhao’s “Hamnet” with $1.5 million from 749 venues. (That’s roughly $500,000 less than “Ella McCay” despite playing in a fraction of the amount of theaters.) So far “Hamnet, a well-reviewed tragedy starring Jessie Buckley and Paul Mescal that follows the death of William Shakespeare’s son, has amassed $7 million to date.

After this glum weekend, overall ticket sales sit at $8.1 billion, a mere 0.5% ahead of last year as well as 22.7% behind 2019, according to Comscore. Cinemas are about to get a major boost, though, from holiday offerings including James Cameron’s epic “Avatar: Fire and Ash,” Paramount’s “The SpongeBob Movie: Search for SquarePants” and Lionsgate thriller “The Housemaid” on Dec. 19, as well as A24 Timothée Chalamet-led ping-pong adventure “Marty Supreme,” the Focus Features musical drama “Song Sung Blue” starring Hugh Jackman and Kate Hudson, and Sony’s disaster comedy “Anaconda” with Jack Black and Paul Rudd on Christmas Day. Will these blockbuster-hopefuls manage to power the domestic box office past the $9 billion benchmark?
 
People still pay attention to Variety? Everyone just wants to hate on a legend like James L. Brooks.

Part of the problem is the studios crammed all these films into like the same six week period, around the holidays. With travel and families, it's hard to prioritize going to the theater. 52 weeks per year - the studios should spread things out a bit.

Saw Dust Bunny and enjoyed it - small (seven row) auditorium but at least six other people in there than me.
 


 
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I'll echo Dan Murrell's warning of sensationalist headlines that can be expected next week about the new Avatar film bombing and/or having a terrible opening weekend. Same thing happened with The Way of Water.

The weekend before Christmas is historically not expected to be a strong box office weekend because people are busy with preparations and other stuff.
What happened with both previous Avatar movies (opening weekends of $77 million and $134 million, respectively), as well as other examples like Aquaman ($67.8 million), the LotR trilogy ($47.2 million, 62 million, and 72.6 million, respectively), MI: Ghost Protocoll ($12.7 million), or Titanic ($28 million); relatively weak opening weekend, but big box office over Christmas and way into January.

The big exception to this rule might be the Disney-era Star Wars movies, but that's its own phenomenon.
 
I'll echo Dan Murrell's warning of sensationalist headlines that can be expected next week about the new Avatar film bombing and/or having a terrible opening weekend. Same thing happened with The Way of Water.

The weekend before Christmas is historically not expected to be a strong box office weekend because people are busy with preparations and other stuff.
What happened with both previous Avatar movies (opening weekends of $77 million and $134 million, respectively), as well as other examples like Aquaman ($67.8 million), the LotR trilogy ($47.2 million, 62 million, and 72.6 million, respectively), MI: Ghost Protocoll ($12.7 million), or Titanic ($28 million); relatively weak opening weekend, but big box office over Christmas and way into January.

The big exception to this rule might be the Disney-era Star Wars movies, but that's its own phenomenon.
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