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Bought a New TV - Ripoff?

Everyone is overlooking on important thing.

The blu-ray picture on the op's friends tv may have looked better simply because it's a better panel in the tv.
 
Netflix is also offering 4K content and they plan to expand that in 2015.

If you've got the bandwidth to stream it.

Also, the higher end 4K's will up convert to 4k. Much like a 1080p HDTV does today. The better the content the better the end result.
 
First thing I did when we bought our LG Smart TV in 2011 was disable the whole True Motion / Smooth Motion nonsense. It made everything look sped up and fake.
 
How does 4k compare to say, looking out the window?

This is why I don't like January sales.

I always spend my Christmas money super quick because I assume some sort of star chamber group of global over lords have decided that the world might as well end along with the year.
 
Well, this is funny. I just watched Tusk on blu-ray and it looked really good on the new tv! Better than GOTG did!
 
But where IS there any 4K content? There are no 4K cable/satellite channels or Blu-Rays.

Don't some BR's label themselves as mastered for 4K.

Maybe some do, but that's just marketing-speak; they're still maxing out at 1080p. Any claim that a BR is actually 4K is a lie - such things do not exist yet.

Yes and no; it's not inaccurate to say it when there's been a new transfer of a film made at 4K resolution (such as the case with last year's Ghostbusters Blu-ray re-release).
 
^ Well, yeah, the transfer itself can be of a higher quality, but the resolution of the actual BR disc will always max out at 1080p. It won't suddenly become 4K if it's played on a 4K TV or anything like that. Literally speaking, there's no such thing as a 4K Blu-Ray disc or player. I don't know if they're even working on one.

The only actual 4K content that I'm aware of is via a very expensive and proprietary streaming player made by Sony. It has a few preloaded films, but not much else.
 
^ Well, yeah, the transfer itself can be of a higher quality, but the resolution of the actual BR disc will always max out at 1080p. It won't suddenly become 4K if it's played on a 4K TV or anything like that. Literally speaking, there's no such thing as a 4K Blu-Ray disc or player. I don't know if they're even working on one.

The only actual 4K content that I'm aware of is via a very expensive and proprietary streaming player made by Sony. It has a few preloaded films, but not much else.

Sony has a player. Samsung has a movie pack that comes preloaded with 4k movies.

And yes, showing 4k content it's pretty much like looking out a window.

If you do pick a 4k up make sure it's got multi HDMI 2.0 inputs. Not all of them do.
 
Do 4k or 4k plus Cameras exist commercially/affordably?

Home movies dude!

Plenty of enthusiasts but also pros are loving the Sony A7S and the Panasonic GH4 for their 4k capabilities.

Put some great lenses on them and the quality is gorgeous.
 
First thing I did when we bought our LG Smart TV in 2011 was disable the whole True Motion / Smooth Motion nonsense. It made everything look sped up and fake.

Same here, for my bluray. It's set to display everything in native, meaning it'll play any disc in its own format. So dvd is dvd, not that harsh-lined, sometimes pixelated 'enhanced' HD-shite. Blurays are still 1080p, since it knows that both the tv and player are capable of that.
The tv also doesn't do that upscaling/enhancing stuff for the dvd.

I tried watching several movies with the 'enhancing' on. God, that was just fugly.
 
Same here, for my bluray. It's set to display everything in native, meaning it'll play any disc in its own format. So dvd is dvd, not that harsh-lined, sometimes pixelated 'enhanced' HD-shite. Blurays are still 1080p, since it knows that both the tv and player are capable of that.
The tv also doesn't do that upscaling/enhancing stuff for the dvd.

Actually, you are always watching standard DVDs in some kind of upscaling mode. If that wasn't the case, you'd get a tiny postage-stamp-sized image in the middle of a sea of black.

All standard-def DVD material must be upscaled when viewed on a HDTV. If the Blu-Ray player doesn't do it, the TV will. But it must occur somewhere along the line.
 
All standard-def DVD material must be upscaled when viewed on a HDTV. If the Blu-Ray player doesn't do it, the TV will. But it must occur somewhere along the line.

Pretty much spot on. Thats why you buy better shit. As a general rule, the more money you spend the better the pic/sound.
 
^ Well, yeah, the transfer itself can be of a higher quality, but the resolution of the actual BR disc will always max out at 1080p. It won't suddenly become 4K if it's played on a 4K TV or anything like that. Literally speaking, there's no such thing as a 4K Blu-Ray disc or player. I don't know if they're even working on one.

The only actual 4K content that I'm aware of is via a very expensive and proprietary streaming player made by Sony. It has a few preloaded films, but not much else.

If I'm not mistaken the file-size for a 4K film would be absolutely enormous and there's really no form of physical media that's affordable enough to contain it. The "closest" you can get is an expensive thumb-drive, like one that costs almost $100.

That's why any 4K films that are available come with the pre-loaded players. This may, more or less, be the "future" where you have these boxes with drives or memory storage on them in the high terrabytes and you buy then download a movie to it.

ETA: Average file size of a 4K movie is 50-GB, obviously that changes with the length of the movie, right now BD disks top out a 50GB but it looks like they're working on 100GB ones. So, it'd seem that a physical media is in the works, though who knows how the file-size for a movie translates to a disc when you add in other things like special features, different audio tracks, menus, etc. Some things I've read say that truer 4K movie file sizes could pass 100GB. Which would likely mean to be on physical media it'd have to be multiple discs, even if 100GB BDs become a reality, or some other form of media.

A 100GB thumbdrive costs around $200 from the looks of it.
 
Just for comparison: In practice you can fit a 2K film in 8 GB and less, 4K is four times the resolution, so 32 GB ought to be enough for anybody. There are TV channels broadcasting 50 FPS 4K streams at 5 MB/s, which amounts to only 36 GB for two hours of video, and that's with double the frame rate.

I am too lazy to download a video off of YouTube, but I streamed two 4K videos right now, one was 4:39 long, and I downloaded 763 MB to watch it at 4K (2.73 MB/s or 20 GB for two hours). The other had significantly less motion, I didn't measure the traffic, but the average bandwidth was below 2 MB/s, even below 1.5 MB/s. With that speed, you could fit an hour and a half film on a DVD. The quality on both was unquestionably stellar.
 
I went from a 47" to a 60" and I see a LOT more detail is hi rez bluray movies simply from the size alone. A 50" wouldn't be enough of a jump for me. Of course standing and looking at 4k tvs will kind of dispel the notion of a perfect image..
 
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