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Spoilers Book of Boba Fett [Spoiler Discussion]

Lastly for a casual Star Wars viewer like me Cad Bane is really an enigma. We get that he history with Fett, and we are supposed to assume he is dangerous (saw him shooting the deputy coming from miles away), but why? What's his deal? Why is he on Tatooine, why should we fear him, apart from the fact that he is apparently a good shot? I think that's a big problem with shared universes, not just for Star Wars. Not everyone is going to know every character from every movie or series.
Most of that is explained within the show itself. Cad Bane is a badass bounty hunter and the only reason he is on Tatooine is because he was hired by the Pykes. His history with Boba Fett was never touched upon before, aside from a Clone Wars episode which was never produced, and indeed the duel between the two is basically a remake of a similar duel from that unproduced episode, right down to Bane being seemingly killed with an implication he could still return. So, really, everyone, die-hard fans and causal fans alike should be on the same page when it comes down to Cad Bane and his history with Boba Fett in this show.
 
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In a way, his family did help him. They trained him and taught him how to make and use a unique weapon that Cad Bane would not be all that familiar with.
True, and it crossed my mind, I don't think it was an accident that Cad Bane was taken down with a gaffi stick. Is it better that the connections are more indirect and not as heavy handed? That's certainly a credible notion.

I have been rewatching through some of the show in part with these discussions and it has been working better for me on second viewing.
 
Most of that is explained within the show itself. Cad Bane is a badass bounty hunter and the only reason he is on Tatooine is because he was hired by the Pykes. His history with Boba Fett was never touched upon before, aside from a Clone Wars episode which was never produced, and indeed the duel between the two is basically a remake of a similar duel from that unproduced episode, right down to Bane being seemingly killed with an implication he could still return. So, really, everyone, die-hard fans and causal fans alike should be on the same page when it comes down to Cad Bane and his history with Boba Fett in this show.

Yeah I had no idea who Cad Bane was before the show
but had no issue working out who, and especially what, he was.
 
The story could play out the same but I thought there'd be an additional connection for Boba if Cad had confessed doing the deed on the behalf of the Pykes.

"The story could play out the same, it could just be a completely different story with completely different themes."

Again, the entire point of the scene is precisely that Boba has no personal connection to the fight. Nothing about what he's doing is selfish. He could turn around and walk away at absolutely any point, and be better off for it, at absolutely no personal cost whatsoever.

He faces Bane not because he needs personal vengeance, or because there's gain in it for him. But because he believes it's the right thing to do. When he appears to be beaten, he finds the strength from the training with his departed family and fights not like a bounty hunter but like a Tusken and wins the day. He's moved beyond the selfish, self-obsessed man of his youth and has found a new purpose.

If you make it personal, you make it about Boba's vendetta against Bane, then it's in no way the same scene or the same story. Now it's just another selfish thug getting self-gratification from another murder in a long line of murders.

Now, Bane is right that Boba is ultimately still a killer. The show even calls this out in the final sequence when Boba acknowledges that he's probably poorly suited to being Mos Espa's defender. But, as Fennec points out, better a killer with a heart than one without. Better Boba than anybody else who would take the job.
 
Loved the Book of Boba Fett. But was anyone kind of disappointed, seeing as how most of the show centered around Mos Espa, that we didn't run into Watto?
 
"The story could play out the same, it could just be a completely different story with completely different themes."

Again, the entire point of the scene is precisely that Boba has no personal connection to the fight. Nothing about what he's doing is selfish. He could turn around and walk away at absolutely any point, and be better off for it, at absolutely no personal cost whatsoever.

He faces Bane not because he needs personal vengeance, or because there's gain in it for him. But because he believes it's the right thing to do. When he appears to be beaten, he finds the strength from the training with his departed family and fights not like a bounty hunter but like a Tusken and wins the day. He's moved beyond the selfish, self-obsessed man of his youth and has found a new purpose.

If you make it personal, you make it about Boba's vendetta against Bane, then it's in no way the same scene or the same story. Now it's just another selfish thug getting self-gratification from another murder in a long line of murders.

I can see what you're saying about it undermining that it's his choice to stay and fight on behalf of the city. Then again, if that's the case, maybe it also shouldn't have been revealed to him that the Pykes were behind the slaughter of the Tuskens?

However, if Bane is seen as an embodiment and repudiation of who Boba once was I can see wanting to keep an individual connection out of it. Bane then can be seeing trying and failing to make it personal by bringing up the Tuskens.
 
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I have to admit I was off-and-on with all the animated series. I'd never seen this before.

Interesting conversation. "She belongs with the Order" comes across as "She belongs to the Order." Doesn't look good on him.
 
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Sadly a lot of comments and behavior don't look good on the Jedi in the wake of the Prequel Trilogy and seven seasons of The Clone Wars. The Order was a shadow of what it once was and could have still been had bad habits and smugness not set in.
 
I have to admit I was off-and-on with all the animated series. I'd never seen this before.

Interesting conversation. "She belongs with the Order" comes across as "She belongs to the Order." Doesn't look good on him.
I'd say neither of them comes off looking good in this conversation. Obi-Wan seems convinced her decision was an irrational one, born of emotion and a lack of self discipline. He still can't imagine the Order being part of the problem. Anakin on the other hand can only frame it as a personal betrayal, but also at the same time being the council's fault. Always shifting blame outwards.
 
Sadly a lot of comments and behavior don't look good on the Jedi in the wake of the Prequel Trilogy and seven seasons of The Clone Wars. The Order was a shadow of what it once was and could have still been had bad habits and smugness not set in.
Yeah, the PT does not paint the Jedi in a positive light, and it comes across even worse in the Clone Wars. The Jedi as "guardians of peace and justice" unfortunately do not live up to Obi-Wan's nostalgic musings about "before the Dark Times."

As much shade is thrown at TLJ I can't help but see Luke's point of view. The Jedi Order became complacent, and thus far has not been portrayed as the force for good it wants to think itself as.
 
For all the problems I have with TLJ Luke's discussion with Rey about the history of the Jedi is a shining moment of both the film and the entire Saga. Luke wasn't wrong. Well, not entirely in any case.
 
For all the problems I have with TLJ Luke's discussion with Rey about the history of the Jedi is a shining moment of both the film and the entire Saga. Luke wasn't wrong. Well, not entirely in any case.
His solution was wrong but his observations were not wrong. Luke had taken in the teachings of the Jedi, including their failings, and failed to learn from the past.
 
I do have to say that scenes like this make for deeper shit than three-quarters of the stuff I watch.

(I do watch deep shit 25% of the time.)
 
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